M80 Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

I've tried my best here FFS, what is the actual case against me?

[brainbomb]

When you get a chance Jamie, when youre done with Rubber Ducky. Can you tell me what was interesting and plausible about my case on sweetandcool?

He was not clear and you made an interesting case. He appeared oddly connected with X as you noted.

Did you not think your own case was worthwhile?

I do think it was worthwhile.
How would you like to proceed in light of agreeing with the case?

[damo666]

I've tried my best here FFS, what is the actual case against me?

Why did you move off Bunny?

[brainbomb]

Hey damo, I want to ask a really really (what you will probably consider) absurdist question.

If you dont mind me asking it.

[damo666]

@Town

We have to be ultra careful here.

If it is a Jamie/Bunny scumpair (note how quickly Jamie moved off Bunny) they may try to contrive a tie. I think we may have a SvS situation here. I think we should consolidate on 1 wagon. Don't really mind between the two.

i'd particularly like Haze and Worcej views.

[damo666]

Hey damo, I want to ask a really really (what you will probably consider) absurdist question.

If you dont mind me asking it.

Go on then

[brainbomb]

Hey damo, I want to ask a really really (what you will probably consider) absurdist question.

If you dont mind me asking it.

Go on then

If jamie and sweet end up together on Bunny, and Bunny flips town. Would you then start to look at sweet and jamie's interaction as teamed today?

I was just curious if there is any scenario whatsoever where you would think sweet is mafia here.

[ghug]

@Town

We have to be ultra careful here.

If it is a Jamie/Bunny scumpair (note how quickly Jamie moved off Bunny) they may try to contrive a tie. I think we may have a SvS situation here. I think we should consolidate on 1 wagon. Don't really mind between the two.

i'd particularly like Haze and Worcej views.

The logical thing to do is dangle it as a possibility so they implicate themselves.

I don't think it's both of them, though.

[damo666]

Hey damo, I want to ask a really really (what you will probably consider) absurdist question.

If you dont mind me asking it.

Go on then

If jamie and sweet end up together on Bunny, and Bunny flips town. Would you then start to look at sweet and jamie's interaction as teamed today?

I was just curious if there is any scenario whatsoever where you would think sweet is mafia here.

That's 3 ifs which I very much doubt will all happen but if they did I would then consider it and probably do a reread but at the moment I think sweet is town.

Also if that happened I think we would have to kill ghug anyway wouldn't we?

[ghug]

Go on then

If jamie and sweet end up together on Bunny, and Bunny flips town. Would you then start to look at sweet and jamie's interaction as teamed today?

I was just curious if there is any scenario whatsoever where you would think sweet is mafia here.

That's 3 ifs which I very much doubt will all happen but if they did I would then consider it and probably do a reread but at the moment I think sweet is town.

Also if that happened I think we would have to kill ghug anyway wouldn't we?

I don't get why you're sold on me being town but steadfast that we have to kill me if we get one wrong somewhere else. It seems likely we're going to go 2/2 here, and I don't really see how not doing so implicates me.

[damo666]

@Town

We have to be ultra careful here.

If it is a Jamie/Bunny scumpair (note how quickly Jamie moved off Bunny) they may try to contrive a tie. I think we may have a SvS situation here. I think we should consolidate on 1 wagon. Don't really mind between the two.

i'd particularly like Haze and Worcej views.

The logical thing to do is dangle it as a possibility so they implicate themselves.

I don't think it's both of them, though.

We can't really afford a tie can we.

If it's not both who is Jamie's likeliest partner and who is Bunny's?

[damo666]

If jamie and sweet end up together on Bunny, and Bunny flips town. Would you then start to look at sweet and jamie's interaction as teamed today?

I was just curious if there is any scenario whatsoever where you would think sweet is mafia here.

That's 3 ifs which I very much doubt will all happen but if they did I would then consider it and probably do a reread but at the moment I think sweet is town.

Also if that happened I think we would have to kill ghug anyway wouldn't we?

I don't get why you're sold on me being town but steadfast that we have to kill me if we get one wrong somewhere else. It seems likely we're going to go 2/2 here, and I don't really see how not doing so implicates me.

I'm afraid there's this nagging doubt about Haze roleblocking you and worcej not being jailed. I realise there's not much you can do about it.

[damo666]

If jamie and sweet end up together on Bunny, and Bunny flips town. Would you then start to look at sweet and jamie's interaction as teamed today?

I was just curious if there is any scenario whatsoever where you would think sweet is mafia here.

That's 3 ifs which I very much doubt will all happen but if they did I would then consider it and probably do a reread but at the moment I think sweet is town.

Also if that happened I think we would have to kill ghug anyway wouldn't we?

I don't get why you're sold on me being town but steadfast that we have to kill me if we get one wrong somewhere else. It seems likely we're going to go 2/2 here, and I don't really see how not doing so implicates me.

I haven't done the sums but if you are town how many miskills can we afford before miskilling you?

[damo666]

That's 3 ifs which I very much doubt will all happen but if they did I would then consider it and probably do a reread but at the moment I think sweet is town.

Also if that happened I think we would have to kill ghug anyway wouldn't we?

I don't get why you're sold on me being town but steadfast that we have to kill me if we get one wrong somewhere else. It seems likely we're going to go 2/2 here, and I don't really see how not doing so implicates me.

I haven't done the sums but if you are town how many miskills can we afford before miskilling you?

I think it's two.

[brainbomb]

Hour left here is the pairs I think are left

Jamie-Sweet
Jamie-Bunny
ghug-sweet
sweet-dousing

I am alot less inclined to think kak or rivera could be scum here.

I see very few reasons to townread Jamie at this point

I made my case on sweet and I havent shaken off the memory of whats happened today.

And dousing for me is a huge liability, and seems to fake alot of dumbtells imo

I am more inclined to think sweet used TMI to clear ghug and thus ghug may actually be town. and he just is not even thinking sweet could ever be scum for how much that helped him out of a jam

[sweetandcool]

@Town

We have to be ultra careful here.

If it is a Jamie/Bunny scumpair (note how quickly Jamie moved off Bunny) they may try to contrive a tie. I think we may have a SvS situation here. I think we should consolidate on 1 wagon. Don't really mind between the two.

i'd particularly like Haze and Worcej views.

The logical thing to do is dangle it as a possibility so they implicate themselves.

I don't think it's both of them, though.

We can't really afford a tie can we.

If it's not both who is Jamie's likeliest partner and who is Bunny's?

I'm in a weird position where I think Jamiet is scum, BunnyGo is townlean, but most likely scumpair is Jamiet and Bunny.

If we are wrong about the scumpair, I think the most likely partner for Jamiet is either rdr or Kak.

Bunny has gone so much for Kak that I think just rdr for them.

It just feels like scumteam decided tunneling strategy is best. So Bunny fits that profile better. But Jamie seems like caught scum right now.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't get why you're sold on me being town but steadfast that we have to kill me if we get one wrong somewhere else. It seems likely we're going to go 2/2 here, and I don't really see how not doing so implicates me.

I haven't done the sums but if you are town how many miskills can we afford before miskilling you?

I think it's two.

We have 3 miskills before KILO. I don't think both Ghug and Sweet should be alive at kilo, but this is just my feeling.

The bad thing is we have 3 PRs so NKs won't help us much.

[sweetandcool]

Hour left here is the pairs I think are left

Jamie-Sweet
Jamie-Bunny
ghug-sweet
sweet-dousing

I am alot less inclined to think kak or rivera could be scum here.

I see very few reasons to townread Jamie at this point

I made my case on sweet and I havent shaken off the memory of whats happened today.

And dousing for me is a huge liability, and seems to fake alot of dumbtells imo

I am more inclined to think sweet used TMI to clear ghug and thus ghug may actually be town. and he just is not even thinking sweet could ever be scum for how much that helped him out of a jam

I think you underestimate ghug in your last sentiment. Otherwise , I agree with your other paragraphs, just not your pairs.

With Dousing though, they just don't feel like scum to me. There was no reason for them to push for X, when I had previously been so unsuccessful.

[brainbomb]

I get this vibe of just playing on autopilot from jamie and Bunny. It isnt even that scummy because given gamestate theyve watched half the scumteam get vaporized by night actions from quality PR play. This sort of thing tends to make people think they dont have to do much.

There is not really any effort or urgency to try from those two, but that can also be explained from a town perspective with both.

I have to be honest this is like my third or fourth best read, and im very stuck in confirmation bias on sweet.

[brainbomb]

Hour left here is the pairs I think are left

Jamie-Sweet
Jamie-Bunny
ghug-sweet
sweet-dousing

I am alot less inclined to think kak or rivera could be scum here.

I see very few reasons to townread Jamie at this point

I made my case on sweet and I havent shaken off the memory of whats happened today.

And dousing for me is a huge liability, and seems to fake alot of dumbtells imo

I am more inclined to think sweet used TMI to clear ghug and thus ghug may actually be town. and he just is not even thinking sweet could ever be scum for how much that helped him out of a jam

I think you underestimate ghug in your last sentiment. Otherwise , I agree with your other paragraphs, just not your pairs.

With Dousing though, they just don't feel like scum to me. There was no reason for them to push for X, when I had previously been so unsuccessful.

I dont underestimate ghug. What a bizarre thing to say. I had been scumreading him for like 96 straight hours.