M80 Game Thread

[ghug]

Or maybe that was teacon.

[President Eden]

should i give fox the link to the text edition of war and peace y/n

Can we not repeat the episode where Brainbomb was outed scum and attempted to post the entirety of "The Old Man And The Sea" into the thread?

To be fair, brainbomb was only outed scum in that game because ND forgot he was the godfather.

lmao

[ghug]

should i give fox the link to the text edition of war and peace y/n

what does your intuition as council member tell you?

i was gonna post the link in here

Fox writes for a living. He'll be fine.

[Kakarroto]

okay, thinking about mafia actions, what do we know:

-) propagandist used the day-shorten
-) agent DID NOT use bomb
-) until now, no one was jailed (or at least reported of it)

that leaves
-) spy to either track or use role cop
-) enforcer to strongman/ninja the nk
-) agent could've driven or jailed

so with no one jailed I think the likelyhood of someone being driven is not low

of course the agent could've just held their actions, so that's that.

maybe they didn't jail anyone since they had hoped for a shot? that's maybe something to consider

thinking of people that could've been a target for a town scan, who would mafia think would be a likely target? Hmm, thinking more about it now, it kinda seems more possible mafia did that.

If I had a scan, I would've scanned someone who would be more likely to survive longer but isn't easy to read either way. Maybe fox fits this bill. I think though I would've probably scanned RD instead. There are other names as well, but I think it's not unlikely if RD is mafia and fox town that mafia thought to drive them N1 in case there is a scan on either of them.

What do you all think about that?

[President Eden]

Bunnygo liking posts but not posting is making me irrationally angry.

curious in retrospect. i believe him when he says it makes him mad, but does foxy call out his teammate doing a bit? i think not

[President Eden]

yea I'm pretty sure if we just line up Dousing, Haze, Bona, and Xcution and shoot them all we win the game

maybe there's one other one at most

and if you're in that group and town don't get mad, get townread

[Jamiet99uk]

Bunnygo liking posts but not posting is making me irrationally angry.

curious in retrospect. i believe him when he says it makes him mad, but does foxy call out his teammate doing a bit? i think not

He reacted to BunnyGo a lot. I made a whole big post about it that you still haven't read.

[Jamiet99uk]

yea I'm pretty sure if we just line up Dousing, Haze, Bona, and Xcution and shoot them all we win the game

maybe there's one other one at most

and if you're in that group and town don't get mad, get townread

What is the basis of your scumread on Haze, again?

[President Eden]

okay, thinking about mafia actions, what do we know:

-) propagandist used the day-shorten
-) agent DID NOT use bomb
-) until now, no one was jailed (or at least reported of it)

that leaves
-) spy to either track or use role cop
-) enforcer to strongman/ninja the nk
-) agent could've driven or jailed

so with no one jailed I think the likelyhood of someone being driven is not low

of course the agent could've just held their actions, so that's that.

maybe they didn't jail anyone since they had hoped for a shot? that's maybe something to consider

thinking of people that could've been a target for a town scan, who would mafia think would be a likely target? Hmm, thinking more about it now, it kinda seems more possible mafia did that.

If I had a scan, I would've scanned someone who would be more likely to survive longer but isn't easy to read either way. Maybe fox fits this bill. I think though I would've probably scanned RD instead. There are other names as well, but I think it's not unlikely if RD is mafia and fox town that mafia thought to drive them N1 in case there is a scan on either of them.

What do you all think about that?

Kak I appreciate your effort, but I have no idea how to assess the likelihood of this with the information we have, so I don't have constructive comment

[Kakarroto]

okay, thinking about mafia actions, what do we know:

-) propagandist used the day-shorten
-) agent DID NOT use bomb
-) until now, no one was jailed (or at least reported of it)

that leaves
-) spy to either track or use role cop
-) enforcer to strongman/ninja the nk
-) agent could've driven or jailed

so with no one jailed I think the likelyhood of someone being driven is not low

of course the agent could've just held their actions, so that's that.

maybe they didn't jail anyone since they had hoped for a shot? that's maybe something to consider

thinking of people that could've been a target for a town scan, who would mafia think would be a likely target? Hmm, thinking more about it now, it kinda seems more possible mafia did that.

If I had a scan, I would've scanned someone who would be more likely to survive longer but isn't easy to read either way. Maybe fox fits this bill. I think though I would've probably scanned RD instead. There are other names as well, but I think it's not unlikely if RD is mafia and fox town that mafia thought to drive them N1 in case there is a scan on either of them.

What do you all think about that?

Kak I appreciate your effort, but I have no idea how to assess the likelihood of this with the information we have, so I don't have constructive comment

fair, though a bit disappointing

then, how about this: if you had a scan N1 that would go through, who would've you had scanned?

[worcej]

okay, thinking about mafia actions, what do we know:

-) propagandist used the day-shorten
-) agent DID NOT use bomb
-) until now, no one was jailed (or at least reported of it)

that leaves
-) spy to either track or use role cop
-) enforcer to strongman/ninja the nk
-) agent could've driven or jailed

so with no one jailed I think the likelyhood of someone being driven is not low

of course the agent could've just held their actions, so that's that.

maybe they didn't jail anyone since they had hoped for a shot? that's maybe something to consider

thinking of people that could've been a target for a town scan, who would mafia think would be a likely target? Hmm, thinking more about it now, it kinda seems more possible mafia did that.

If I had a scan, I would've scanned someone who would be more likely to survive longer but isn't easy to read either way. Maybe fox fits this bill. I think though I would've probably scanned RD instead. There are other names as well, but I think it's not unlikely if RD is mafia and fox town that mafia thought to drive them N1 in case there is a scan on either of them.

What do you all think about that?

I think you're assuming that every scum PR used their power here, which is not normally the case. The Agent may have done nothing N1 to save the drive for later.

Again, I believe the reason I wasn't jailed was because they wanted to scan me.

[President Eden]

yea I'm pretty sure if we just line up Dousing, Haze, Bona, and Xcution and shoot them all we win the game

maybe there's one other one at most

and if you're in that group and town don't get mad, get townread

What is the basis of your scumread on Haze, again?

presence without presence

Haze is clearly not just a lurker or lowposter but their posts have been reactive and "in the moment" for the most part. commenting on what's happening as they're around in a noncommittal manner.

ghug implied (IMO anyway, correct me if I'm wrong) that Haze is someone who isn't especially vocal or aggressive, but who makes insightful comments and puts together solid solves when they're around. I feel like we've had players like that before, but I don't have a good comp off the top of my head. Regardless, I'm not seeing that, ghug has said he's not seeing it either.

Plus, a whole bunch of people have towned hard at this point, so not being in that number is increasingly suspicious absent any actively suspicious behavior

[President Eden]

okay, thinking about mafia actions, what do we know:

-) propagandist used the day-shorten
-) agent DID NOT use bomb
-) until now, no one was jailed (or at least reported of it)

that leaves
-) spy to either track or use role cop
-) enforcer to strongman/ninja the nk
-) agent could've driven or jailed

so with no one jailed I think the likelyhood of someone being driven is not low

of course the agent could've just held their actions, so that's that.

maybe they didn't jail anyone since they had hoped for a shot? that's maybe something to consider

thinking of people that could've been a target for a town scan, who would mafia think would be a likely target? Hmm, thinking more about it now, it kinda seems more possible mafia did that.

If I had a scan, I would've scanned someone who would be more likely to survive longer but isn't easy to read either way. Maybe fox fits this bill. I think though I would've probably scanned RD instead. There are other names as well, but I think it's not unlikely if RD is mafia and fox town that mafia thought to drive them N1 in case there is a scan on either of them.

What do you all think about that?

Kak I appreciate your effort, but I have no idea how to assess the likelihood of this with the information we have, so I don't have constructive comment

fair, though a bit disappointing

then, how about this: if you had a scan N1 that would go through, who would've you had scanned?

Foxcastle unironically

I was going to use Informant power on him until brain brought up using Vote Doubler as a self-confirming tool

[ghug]

yea I'm pretty sure if we just line up Dousing, Haze, Bona, and Xcution and shoot them all we win the game

maybe there's one other one at most

and if you're in that group and town don't get mad, get townread

What is the basis of your scumread on Haze, again?

presence without presence

Haze is clearly not just a lurker or lowposter but their posts have been reactive and "in the moment" for the most part. commenting on what's happening as they're around in a noncommittal manner.

ghug implied (IMO anyway, correct me if I'm wrong) that Haze is someone who isn't especially vocal or aggressive, but who makes insightful comments and puts together solid solves when they're around. I feel like we've had players like that before, but I don't have a good comp off the top of my head. Regardless, I'm not seeing that, ghug has said he's not seeing it either.

Plus, a whole bunch of people have towned hard at this point, so not being in that number is increasingly suspicious absent any actively suspicious behavior

He's kind of like damo in that nobody gets him but the process works.

[Kakarroto]

Kak I appreciate your effort, but I have no idea how to assess the likelihood of this with the information we have, so I don't have constructive comment

fair, though a bit disappointing

then, how about this: if you had a scan N1 that would go through, who would've you had scanned?

Foxcastle unironically

I was going to use Informant power on him until brain brought up using Vote Doubler as a self-confirming tool

hmm, thanks

@everyone I would really appreciate if everyone would put their thoughts to my 'mafia-action'-post (like worcej and eden did), maybe if you are spicy add who you would've scanned N1

thanks in advance!

[Jamiet99uk]

fair, though a bit disappointing

then, how about this: if you had a scan N1 that would go through, who would've you had scanned?

Foxcastle unironically

I was going to use Informant power on him until brain brought up using Vote Doubler as a self-confirming tool

hmm, thanks

@everyone I would really appreciate if everyone would put their thoughts to my 'mafia-action'-post (like worcej and eden did), maybe if you are spicy add who you would've scanned N1

thanks in advance!

I think your post contains too many variables to be sure of. The possibility of a driver being used cannot be ruled out I guess.

If I had had a cop scan available to me, I probably wouldn't have used it N1. But if I had used it, I would have had it set to scan President Eden until the last couple of hours of N1 when he re-re-hardclaimed. At that point I would have changed my scan to someone like BunnyGo, yourself, or Damo.

[ghug]

fair, though a bit disappointing

then, how about this: if you had a scan N1 that would go through, who would've you had scanned?

Foxcastle unironically

I was going to use Informant power on him until brain brought up using Vote Doubler as a self-confirming tool

hmm, thanks

@everyone I would really appreciate if everyone would put their thoughts to my 'mafia-action'-post (like worcej and eden did), maybe if you are spicy add who you would've scanned N1

thanks in advance!

Can the nightkill performer still do a JOAT thing?

[Jamiet99uk]

Foxcastle unironically

I was going to use Informant power on him until brain brought up using Vote Doubler as a self-confirming tool

hmm, thanks

@everyone I would really appreciate if everyone would put their thoughts to my 'mafia-action'-post (like worcej and eden did), maybe if you are spicy add who you would've scanned N1

thanks in advance!

Can the nightkill performer still do a JOAT thing?

Good question.

The setup says it's a factional kill. Usually a factional Mafia NK does not prevent individual Mafia team members from performing role actions. The contrary approach would be what I'd deem as "non standard".

[President Eden]

Foxcastle unironically

I was going to use Informant power on him until brain brought up using Vote Doubler as a self-confirming tool

hmm, thanks

@everyone I would really appreciate if everyone would put their thoughts to my 'mafia-action'-post (like worcej and eden did), maybe if you are spicy add who you would've scanned N1

thanks in advance!

Can the nightkill performer still do a JOAT thing?

iS tHiS a ToWnSlIp?/?/?

[Kakarroto]

Foxcastle unironically

I was going to use Informant power on him until brain brought up using Vote Doubler as a self-confirming tool

hmm, thanks

@everyone I would really appreciate if everyone would put their thoughts to my 'mafia-action'-post (like worcej and eden did), maybe if you are spicy add who you would've scanned N1

thanks in advance!

Can the nightkill performer still do a JOAT thing?

I'm ... not sure. Maybe. Probably a question for the GM. I was thinking the enforcer would've used either strongarm or ninja to perform the action, so that question didn't occur to me.

##askGM: can the mafia-person who performs the kill at night use their JOAT power? (well other than the strongarm or ninja power which explicitly states they can be used with the factional night-kill?)