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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:00 pm
by damo666
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:27 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:38 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:45 am
What's traitorious about the Mafia traitor? I don't see it from the link.

If a VT is randomly allocated a power role of VT and this remains a a VT eo they still get a message they were randomly allocated a power role?
Q2 outstanding
Your Q2 doesn't make a whole lot of sense. What does "power role of VT" mean? There is no power role of VT. VT is not a Power Role.

Do you mean "When power roles are allocated, do people who remain a VT get a second message confirming they are still a VT?" ?
My mistake. I read Vanilla Cop as VT.

Ignore.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:18 pm
by Jamiet99uk
No worries Damo.

For the room: Vanilla Cop is a Cop which does not discover the alignment of their target; instead they learn whether the target is "Vanilla" or "Not Vanilla".

"Not Vanilla" includes any Power Role.
"Vanilla" includes both Mafia Goons and Vanilla Townies.

##CALL GM:

If the Vanilla Cop is in play, and scans the Mafia Traitor, does this return a "Vanilla" result, or a "Not Vanilla" result?

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:06 pm
by worcej
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:00 pm
##Call.Gm:

The Janitor is factional but presumably the person doing the NK is also the one that does the Janitoring, yes?

If not, can the Janitoring be roleblocked?
Janitoring will be completed by the NK, and thus can be RB'ed but would not be consumed if RB'ed.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:18 pm
No worries Damo.

For the room: Vanilla Cop is a Cop which does not discover the alignment of their target; instead they learn whether the target is "Vanilla" or "Not Vanilla".

"Not Vanilla" includes any Power Role.
"Vanilla" includes both Mafia Goons and Vanilla Townies.

##CALL GM:

If the Vanilla Cop is in play, and scans the Mafia Traitor, does this return a "Vanilla" result, or a "Not Vanilla" result?
This is incorrect - Mafia Goons are NOT Vanilla.

Mafia Traitor would return "Not Vanilla"

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:27 pm
by Jamiet99uk
worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:06 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:00 pm
##Call.Gm:

The Janitor is factional but presumably the person doing the NK is also the one that does the Janitoring, yes?

If not, can the Janitoring be roleblocked?
Janitoring will be completed by the NK, and thus can be RB'ed but would not be consumed if RB'ed.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:18 pm
No worries Damo.

For the room: Vanilla Cop is a Cop which does not discover the alignment of their target; instead they learn whether the target is "Vanilla" or "Not Vanilla".

"Not Vanilla" includes any Power Role.
"Vanilla" includes both Mafia Goons and Vanilla Townies.

##CALL GM:

If the Vanilla Cop is in play, and scans the Mafia Traitor, does this return a "Vanilla" result, or a "Not Vanilla" result?
This is incorrect - Mafia Goons are NOT Vanilla.

Mafia Traitor would return "Not Vanilla"
Mafia Goons are NOT Vanilla???

You know that's totally the opposite of how the Goon role is normally treated in Vanilla Cop results, yes?

Why have you decided to change it?

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:29 pm
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:27 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:06 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:00 pm
##Call.Gm:

The Janitor is factional but presumably the person doing the NK is also the one that does the Janitoring, yes?

If not, can the Janitoring be roleblocked?
Janitoring will be completed by the NK, and thus can be RB'ed but would not be consumed if RB'ed.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:18 pm
No worries Damo.

For the room: Vanilla Cop is a Cop which does not discover the alignment of their target; instead they learn whether the target is "Vanilla" or "Not Vanilla".

"Not Vanilla" includes any Power Role.
"Vanilla" includes both Mafia Goons and Vanilla Townies.

##CALL GM:

If the Vanilla Cop is in play, and scans the Mafia Traitor, does this return a "Vanilla" result, or a "Not Vanilla" result?
This is incorrect - Mafia Goons are NOT Vanilla.

Mafia Traitor would return "Not Vanilla"
Mafia Goons are NOT Vanilla???

You know that's totally the opposite of how the Goon role is normally treated in Vanilla Cop results, yes?

Why have you decided to change it?
This version gets less powerful the more roles are in the game, which is an interesting consideration for mafia when they make their selections.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:31 pm
by Jamiet99uk
For reference:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vanilla_Cop
"Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons will return a "vanilla" result. Any other player will return a "not vanilla" result."

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Vanilla_Cop
"Vanilla Cop receives positive results for both Vanilla Town and Mafia Goon"

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:33 pm
by Jamiet99uk
ghug wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:29 pm

This version gets less powerful the more roles are in the game, which is an interesting consideration for mafia when they make their selections.
The weird way Worcej is treating Vanilla Cop, if it happens to be the only Town PR, then it becomes a normal Cop.

Very unusual; I think this should have been highlighted.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:42 pm
by Fluminator
I can be a replacement. Love new players and welcome to them but they're higher risk for replacing out after they first encounter you maniacs.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:07 am
by dargorygel
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:42 pm
I can be a replacement. Love new players and welcome to them but they're higher risk for replacing out after they first encounter you maniacs.
There is only one Maniac, and he has not joined this game.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:15 am
by damo666
dargorygel wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:07 am
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:42 pm
I can be a replacement. Love new players and welcome to them but they're higher risk for replacing out after they first encounter you maniacs.
There is only one Maniac, and he has not joined this game.
Where is Maniac?

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:58 am
by Jamiet99uk
damo666 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:15 am
dargorygel wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:07 am
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:42 pm
I can be a replacement. Love new players and welcome to them but they're higher risk for replacing out after they first encounter you maniacs.
There is only one Maniac, and he has not joined this game.
Where is Maniac?
He is arranging a cheese and wine evening in rural Gloucestershire.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:59 am
by Jamiet99uk
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:33 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:29 pm

This version gets less powerful the more roles are in the game, which is an interesting consideration for mafia when they make their selections.
The weird way Worcej is treating Vanilla Cop, if it happens to be the only Town PR, then it becomes a normal Cop.

Very unusual; I think this should have been highlighted.
##Call GM

Your "Vanilla Cop" doesn't work like a Vanilla Cop. I think you should reconsider and use it normally.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:02 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Or call it something else.

The fact that Mafia Goon is a vanilla role is very well established.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:32 pm
by worcej
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:59 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:33 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:29 pm

This version gets less powerful the more roles are in the game, which is an interesting consideration for mafia when they make their selections.
The weird way Worcej is treating Vanilla Cop, if it happens to be the only Town PR, then it becomes a normal Cop.

Very unusual; I think this should have been highlighted.
##Call GM

Your "Vanilla Cop" doesn't work like a Vanilla Cop. I think you should reconsider and use it normally.
Thank you for your opinion on this. ghug said it well enough already about why this role is modified for this setup.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:23 am
by Jamiet99uk
worcej wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:32 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:59 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:33 pm


The weird way Worcej is treating Vanilla Cop, if it happens to be the only Town PR, then it becomes a normal Cop.

Very unusual; I think this should have been highlighted.
##Call GM

Your "Vanilla Cop" doesn't work like a Vanilla Cop. I think you should reconsider and use it normally.
Thank you for your opinion on this. ghug said it well enough already about why this role is modified for this setup.
OK, so it's not a Vanilla Cop, it's a weird homebrew role that you've invented.

I see.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:32 am
by rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:23 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:32 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:59 am


##Call GM

Your "Vanilla Cop" doesn't work like a Vanilla Cop. I think you should reconsider and use it normally.
Thank you for your opinion on this. ghug said it well enough already about why this role is modified for this setup.
OK, so it's not a Vanilla Cop, it's a weird homebrew role that you've invented.

I see.
I like homebrew beers, let's give homebrew roles a chance 🍺 🍻

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:49 am
by worcej
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:23 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:32 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:59 am


##Call GM

Your "Vanilla Cop" doesn't work like a Vanilla Cop. I think you should reconsider and use it normally.
Thank you for your opinion on this. ghug said it well enough already about why this role is modified for this setup.
OK, so it's not a Vanilla Cop, it's a weird homebrew role that you've invented.

I see.
It is the most Vanilla cop possible. It wants to find all the Vanilla.

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:15 am
by Bonatogether
/in

going to be basically gone for d2, n2, first day of d3, but otherwise can post as normal

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:18 am
by Bonatogether
are +1s allowed?

Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right - SIGN-UP THREAD

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:56 am
by snowy801
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