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Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:19 pm

I don't necessarily think the damo NK was due to the direction of town progress. I think we're still pretty fractured. With what damo was pushing, there are some that still read him as mafia.

We now know that what they were thinking was on the level and coming from a town place.

So there's that.

I am not sure there were any town who thought damo was mafia. My guess was he had good reads and the mafia thought he might be a PR.

Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:02 am

Worcej and bozo bussing here with these votes?

Why do you think this is a possibility?

KoalaAttack wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:51 am

In other news, here my updated Suspect list:

(1) rdrivera – see my last few posts
(2) Bozo – on one hand, Jamiet vs Bozo feels eerily like Koala vs ghug / Koala vs Bona or even say TFB vs Damo last game ... but on the other, a few uncharacteristic mechanical omissions or mistakes in replying to things

BUT if either of rdrivera or Bozo were to flip and flip Town, I would really want to revisit the worcej / HB / Flum trio of buddying to AnnoyingKoala.

Jamiet has fallen off the list due to asking lots of good / tough questions lately. Maybe it's very good bussing though, but I can't tell since it's my first game with Jamiet as a player beyond half-of-D1... So I defer to the Town, and more folks seem to think Jamiet is Town than Mafia slots remaining... shrug.

I understand what you are saying, but why do you think I would be more likely to make a mistake as mafia than town? As mafia I would not say something I know is inaccurate and hope that no one would notice.

##vote rdr
##end
I'm trying to stay open minded but at this point I'm not sure acting would change my mind.

I don't think rdr is a pr either.

*anything

Jamiet, I liked your case on bozo but I no longer think he's scum (partly because of your push on him and his response to it). So thank you for that but fwiw I think you're wrong on him now

I still think rdrivera and worcej are the most likely mafia combination, and the damo NK makes sense if this is correct. I think there is a chance that Jamiet is mafia, but I would not want to DK him until rdrivera or worcej flipped town.

I am OK voting either rdrivera or worcej today, and I hope the other town can come to a consensus on one of them, otherwise I will probably be mis-killed. I suspect rdrivera will wait to see how the day is going before deciding whether to go for the mis-kill or the bus of worcej.

I don't think anyone besides rdrivera, worcej, or myself will get votes today, so I am OK hammering early to make sure Fluminator participates is choosing the final vote. Also, I think hammering could make sure we do not have to deal with a fake PR claim in the final minutes of the day.

A potential pr claim is one of the reasons I'd want to potentially hammer early so we have time to process that claim

Fluminator wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:46 am

##vote rdraims
##end
I'm trying to stay open minded but at this point I'm not sure acting would change my mind.

I don't think rdr is a pr either.

##VOTE rdrivera
##END

I am fine not waiting to find out about rdrivera. If HB and KoalaAttack are OK hammering rdrivera, I think whoever places the last vote should wait until rdrivera has had a chance to make a claim.

Worcej
Koala, me, and Bozo are all willing to vote rdr and 2 of us are willing to hammer. (Koala might be idk)

Would you be our fourth potentially?

Yes, if we have one more person end vote RDR, it is imperative that the fourth person says
Intent to hammer
To give rdr time to claim or not

Fluminator wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:54 am

A potential pr claim is one of the reasons I'd want to potentially hammer early so we have time to process that claim

I agree, we don't want to give the mafia a chance to divert a DK in the final minutes for the rest of this game. We can't be certain that one mis-kill will not end the game.

I know you all really wanted to get me to break my fasting period – but it's past midnight now here so technically tomorrow!

Fluminator wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:00 am

Yes, if we have one more person end vote RDR, it is imperative that the fourth person says
Intent to hammer
To give rdr time to claim or not

I have absolutely no idea what this means. You mean I literally say that ominous phrase and wait? ... For how long? An arbitrary amount of time I decide on?

I still hate the idea of hammering because less data == bad ... but I understand the rationale if Flum can't make it Tue. I guess this is like asking a Diplomacy game to Ready to shift the cycle?

Anywho, I don't want this awesome/terrible responsibility that I do not fully understand on my conscience.

##END

Yay I am not last one! Someone else gets to be the executioner.

KoalaAttack wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 am

I know you all really wanted to get me to break my fasting period – but it's past midnight now here so technically tomorrow!

Fluminator wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:00 am

Yes, if we have one more person end vote RDR, it is imperative that the fourth person says
Intent to hammer
To give rdr time to claim or not

I have absolutely no idea what this means. You mean I literally say that ominous phrase and wait? ... For how long? An arbitrary amount of time I decide on?

I still hate the idea of hammering because less data == bad ... but I understand the rationale if Flum can't make it Tue. I guess this is like asking a Diplomacy game to Ready to shift the cycle?

Anywho, I don't want this awesome/terrible responsibility that I do not fully understand on my conscience.

##END

Yay I am not last one! Someone else gets to be the executioner.

Someone who says that phrase means they're willing to kill that person but giving the suspect time for last words before "laying down the hammer".

It's a scum claim if anyone hammers without warning.

But how long do you wait? And why wouldn't the suspect always claim The Doctor or The Coolest Role regardless of alignment?

Obviously Mafia would. But even a Townie – you folks keep telling me how Townie suicide or non-defense of MK is terrible. How is this different?

Feel free to tell me that answering this mid-game helps the Mafia and not.

##Vote Rdrivera

Intent to hammer

KoalaAttack wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:26 am

But how long do you wait? And why wouldn't the suspect always claim The Doctor or The Coolest Role regardless of alignment?

Obviously Mafia would. But even a Townie – you folks keep telling me how Townie suicide or non-defense of MK is terrible. How is this different?

Feel free to tell me that answering this mid-game helps the Mafia and not.

If he claims a role which exists, the person with that role can choose to counter-claim.

If he chooses a wild, unlikely role, such as Weak Lazy Fruit Vendor, we can discuss.

Roles Rdrivera probably doesn't have:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Of_Its_Ass

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Condemner

http://news.rr.nihalnavath.com/posts/Ma ... e-1a489f50

Fluminator wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:58 am

Worcej
Koala, me, and Bozo are all willing to vote rdr and 2 of us are willing to hammer. (Koala might be idk)

Would you be our fourth potentially?

Yes.

##vote rdr

Will hammer when I am actually caught up.

Glad I didn’t hip fire the end there lol…