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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:13 pm
by Fluminator
VT too, not even a PR lmao

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:15 pm
by KoalaAttack
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:03 pm
And oh yeah damo has died. He was a VT.
Unexpected poop. RIP Damo, sorry for suspecting you.

Very interesting – Damo has been one of the most passive players, and wasn't widely townread AFAICT. Not compared to the likes of say Flum.

My dilettante gut-feel conclusion is "Mafia did not like the way the Town thinking was trending and attempted to throw us off with an unexpected NK."

The other obvious explanation is Flum is Mafia – but why risk such an obvious frame back-firing when Flum would have been sitting pretty without it?

So what did the Mafia not like about the current direction the Town thinking was shifting to? Maybe this:

##VOTE rdrivera2005

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:15 pm
by Fluminator
For proper balance in this setup, I'm quite certain there are 3 power roles hanging around, so I think we're still in a good spot, but we can't get lazy.

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:17 pm
by KoalaAttack
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:11 pm
Most standout thing I recall about damo was getting around to the potential pairs. That'd be a decent starting point.
I agree on "most standout thing" but disagree on "decent starting point" – Damo has build far fewer and weaker cases than half the people on here IMHO. And didn't exactly push them hard. Besides, last game Damo got a metric ton of flak and got MK-ed for similar pair-making.

I don't think this is about Damo's reads. I think it's a mis-direction. I have no solid basis on this other than intuition though and can't back this up with any decent proof.

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:19 pm
by Hamilton Brian
I don't necessarily think the damo NK was due to the direction of town progress. I think we're still pretty fractured. With what damo was pushing, there are some that still read him as mafia.

We now know that what they were thinking was on the level and coming from a town place.

So there's that.

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:24 pm
by bozotheclown
##VOTE worcej

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:26 pm
by worcej
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:24 pm
##VOTE worcej
How incredibly shocking.

##vote bozo

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:28 pm
by worcej
Fluminator wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:15 pm
For proper balance in this setup, I'm quite certain there are 3 power roles hanging around, so I think we're still in a good spot, but we can't get lazy.
If my last setup review is one to judge, it’s entirely based on scum PR count. Knowing Kak was a goon it leaves me to think we have a potential of 2 at most.

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:29 pm
by Fluminator
So I already know I won't be around eod tuesday. If a large portion of the playerbase isn't around eod, we might want to consider using the hammer function so everyone is present during the phase change

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:31 pm
by KoalaAttack
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:19 pm
I don't necessarily think the damo NK was due to the direction of town progress. I think we're still pretty fractured. With what damo was pushing, there are some that still read him as mafia.

We now know that what they were thinking was on the level and coming from a town place.

So there's that.
OK, that's fair enough.

damo666 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:01 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:51 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:33 pm
Why's that?
I'll try to write up a case when I can.

We need to squash this Bozo/HB scum team belief.

I think they're both town now. Bozo looked much better today. I'll try to explain that too when I can lol
Yeah. I think it may be rdr Koala.
Well here Damo's latest. I am 100% onboard with this – I feel flipping either rdr or myself would be high-info for the rest of the Town at least.

Obviously I much prefer to flip rdr because I know I'm Town – and becuase I think there was a potential slip from rdr last night.

But given that's unprovable to you, I think I am the least-bad MK at this point given my intentional meta-obfuscation via Impersonation and the Townie Heel experiment. And if y'all suspect me more than rdr at the end of the day – pun intended – than the only logical play is to correct that before we are out of MKs.

I'd be happy to move my vote from rdr to myself, but y'all will just chew me out for "bad town play" ... So I'm thinking I'll stay parked on rdr unless there is a major new epiphany or case-building revelation someone shares.

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:36 pm
by dargorygel
Damo666 has died. He was a Chipotle menu item, from the panhandle.

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:37 pm
by worcej
dargorygel wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:36 pm
Damo666 has died. He was a Chipotle menu item, from the panhandle.
OHHHHHH… the theme is Florida based…

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:47 pm
by KoalaAttack
KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:15 pm
The other obvious explanation is Flum is Mafia – but why risk such an obvious frame back-firing when Flum would have been sitting pretty without it?
Or maybe they are afraid of the Doctor?

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:52 pm
by Fluminator
I would be interested in Rdr's read on why damo was the nightkill.

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:56 pm
by KoalaAttack
Fluminator wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:15 pm
For proper balance in this setup, I'm quite certain there are 3 power roles hanging around, so I think we're still in a good spot, but we can't get lazy.
Can I ask this without discussing the PRs themselves – statistically, in Mafia games with 3 PRs (one of which has a gun), which 3 PRs are most likely in your folks' experience?

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:10 pm
by Jamiet99uk
RIP Damo

Interesting kill. Did they think he was a PR?

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:11 pm
by worcej
KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:56 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:15 pm
For proper balance in this setup, I'm quite certain there are 3 power roles hanging around, so I think we're still in a good spot, but we can't get lazy.
Can I ask this without discussing the PRs themselves – statistically, in Mafia games with 3 PRs (one of which has a gun), which 3 PRs are most likely in your folks' experience?
I would say that doctor and cop are the most common ones. After that, probably vig

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:13 pm
by KoalaAttack
worcej wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:11 pm
KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:56 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:15 pm
For proper balance in this setup, I'm quite certain there are 3 power roles hanging around, so I think we're still in a good spot, but we can't get lazy.
Can I ask this without discussing the PRs themselves – statistically, in Mafia games with 3 PRs (one of which has a gun), which 3 PRs are most likely in your folks' experience?
I would say that doctor and cop are the most common ones. After that, probably vig
Thank you

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:37 pm
by worcej
KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:13 pm
worcej wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:11 pm
KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:56 pm

Can I ask this without discussing the PRs themselves – statistically, in Mafia games with 3 PRs (one of which has a gun), which 3 PRs are most likely in your folks' experience?
I would say that doctor and cop are the most common ones. After that, probably vig
Thank you
We do also use a lot of custom PRs as we try to change stuff up.

jack of all trades is another one that people like to use

Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:37 pm
by Fluminator
##Vote bozotheclown
##Vote Hamilton Brian
##Vote Jamiet99uk
##Vote KoalaAttack
##Vote rdrivera2005
##Vote worcej

I think you're all scum