M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1381 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:17 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:54 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:07 am
KoalaAttack wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:03 am
All my other points above. Also something about your voting pattern D1 reminds me of last game, it's too perfect a timing. Looks so good how you moved to put Kak in the lead, just Mafia Bona would do.
What were you referring to here about Bonatogether putting Kakarroto in the lead?
He didn't, I was wrong – which Bona also pointed out later to his credit, but I ignored his correction because I was tunneled on him for behaving similar to last game in my eyes.
Ah ok you corrected it, nvm.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1382 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:18 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:00 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:08 pm
Anyway, I need to cast a vote.

I thought the Bozo tunnel might be scum Bozo, but he improved today.
Só I am not sure anymore.

I think Worcej including TFB on his reads is lazy (or drunk) Worcej but not sure if this is scum Worcej. His defense of himself looks more town angry then scum catched on a scumslip.

I will ##vote Bona because it ties the voting and the voting is pretty still right now.
worcej wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:16 pm
Apparently damo isn't a consensus...

##vote bozo

I town Jamie hard and have a town-lean on bona far more than I do bozo.
rdrivera and worcej placing their final D2 votes on opposite town wagons for less than compelling reasons is consistent with them being mafia.
Bozo, worcej's final D2 vote was on Hamilton Brian, not you.

You're mistaken to describe that as his "final D2 vote" unless you are telling us that you know for certain that HB is town.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1383 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:28 pm

Bozo seems to have a habit in this game of being mistaken about people's voting intentions.

This is definitely the second time it has happened.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1384 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:34 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:18 pm
You're mistaken to describe that as his "final D2 vote" unless you are telling us that you know for certain that HB is town.
This sentence is clumsy and I should re-phrase it. What I mean is, you (TheBozo) are mistaken to say that you know Worcej's "final D2 vote" was on town, unless you're telling us that you know HB's alignment.

TheBozo, the last time you made this mistake, involving my vote, it was because you were looking at the Bot whilst forgetting the context in which the vote was placed.

This time, can you explain what led to your error? The bot very clearly shows that Worcej's last vote in D2 was for Hamilton Brian. Moreover, the GM's end of day summary also clearly shows Worcej's vote being on HB when day ended. Plus, if you reviewed the events of EoD2, you couldn't fail to notice Worcej shouting at HB for tying the vote, and trying to get a flash-wagon on HB in motion.

It appears that sometimes you only notice votes when they involve you. You engaged in misleading questioning of me yesterday because my vote moved off my joke "the" vote, and onto you. Now in considering EoD2 you notice Worcej voting for you, but you don't notice him moving off you onto HB.

Are you selectively just looking for people voting you and seeking to shade them?
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1385 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:30 pm

Scum to Town, updated:

bozotheclown
rdrivera2005
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damo666
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worcej
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Rdrivera has moved up because:

(a) He has been super inactive and his D2 was particularly egregious in this regard. I will re-read if I have time before EoN but I cannot call to mind a single thing he has done which would incline me to townread him.

(b) Rdrivera is dangerous as scum and letting him coast quietly into the endgame would be a serious problem if he is indeed scum.

(c) He just feels off.

Bozo is still at the top of my list after the latest example of being wrong about who Worcej was even voting for at EoD, which, as I said, strikes me as Bozo lazily looking for his own name rather than actually paying attention to everything that is going on. This strikes me as a scum!Bozo meta based on recent experiences.

Hamilton Brian has to be in contention if Bozo is scum, for obvious reasons.

Flum and Worcej scream town to me now and if I'm wrong about either, I'm sorry.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1386 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:46 pm

I really can't disagree with the read of me. Yesterday's EOD does look absolutely terrible on me. Indefensible, really. EOD I should just refresh this page instead of relying on the bot when I'm on my phone.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1387 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:47 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
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I really can't disagree with the read of me. Yesterday's EOD does look absolutely terrible on me. Indefensible, really. EOD I should just refresh this page instead of relying on the bot when I'm on my phone.
Well, you're only third on my list.
I want Bozo vs Rdrivera tomorrow, as it stands.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1388 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:01 pm

Well, I missed EOD and have some pages to read. Seems I will have some time as I am the number 1 suspect right now and Mafia won't kill me anyway.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1389 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:02 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:17 am
Well, Ghug was obviously town so it's not a surprise NK.

I still think HR and Flum are town.

I have a lot doubts about Koala, I just don't feel the same Koala of first game but also it's not the same fluffy Koala from last game.

Right now I would say Bozo and Jamiet are my top suspects. Followed by Damo, Bona and Worcej in this order.

Bozo is just forgettable this game which doesn't happen when he is town. And Jamiet reactions seems over the top like he wants to look like angry town Jamiet.
Rdrivera, it appears from this that, at the early part of D2, you had six suspects. Is that right?
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1390 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:03 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
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Well, I missed EOD and have some pages to read. Seems I will have some time as I am the number 1 suspect right now and Mafia won't kill me anyway.
Why do you think you are the number 1 suspect?
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Re: M1024: Flumhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1391 Post by worcej » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:08 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:00 am
Fluminator wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:05 pm
damo666 wrote:
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Yeah. I think it may be rdr Koala.
That is actually the primary one on my mind right now. Rdr Worcej makes sense to me too, is that one of your pairs?
After reading how the end of D2 went, I think these are good possibilities. Neon would say rdrivera/worcej or KoalaAttack/worcej are more likely. I would go with rdrivera/worcej right now.
Neon? Like the princess one?

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1392 Post by worcej » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:09 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:43 am
worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:14 pm
Mid-drive to Dryden, ON atm and unsure how much longer I will have reception.

I town Jamie atm. His vibe is definitely about trying to solve and contribute to the game.
I believe Koala is town but his voting mechanic does not lock him into it.
I think Kak is town with some of his posts about setup, but this could be easy to fake too.
I don’t feel like Flum, ghug, damo, TFB, or Bona have done anything to give me an alignment read.
Bozo hasn’t actually done anything really yet.
HB’s anti-vibe list rubs me the wrong way, but not enough to really make me scum him.
Rdr seemed off to me initially. He’s the most negative opinion I have at this point, so putting a ##vote rdr in to ensure I meet game requirements.
worcej wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:58 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
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I am speculating/assuming that your vote for Flum isn't serious?
No, my scum pool is currently bozo/damo/rdr
worcej wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:01 pm
##vote damo

I don’t like damo’s rdr vote and lack of content outside of the Koala stuff as I mentioned.
It is not clear from this why worcej would not like damo’s vote for rdrivera.
Because damo provided no context for it at the time and it felt off-putting.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1393 Post by worcej » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:12 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:52 am
worcej wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:16 pm
Apparently damo isn't a consensus...

##vote bozo

I town Jamie hard and have a town-lean on bona far more than I do bozo.
This looks like worcej is trying to pocket Jamie.
If you view everything I do as scum, then yeah I guess it can look like that.

It could also be a town player continuing to reinforce their town read on a player that was almost D1’ed

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1394 Post by worcej » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:13 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:00 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:08 pm
Anyway, I need to cast a vote.

I thought the Bozo tunnel might be scum Bozo, but he improved today.
Só I am not sure anymore.

I think Worcej including TFB on his reads is lazy (or drunk) Worcej but not sure if this is scum Worcej. His defense of himself looks more town angry then scum catched on a scumslip.

I will ##vote Bona because it ties the voting and the voting is pretty still right now.
worcej wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:16 pm
Apparently damo isn't a consensus...

##vote bozo

I town Jamie hard and have a town-lean on bona far more than I do bozo.
rdrivera and worcej placing their final D2 votes on opposite town wagons for less than compelling reasons is consistent with them being mafia.
Again, sure - let’s fit every action I do into a narrative that you want.

I was clear about not wanting bona to be killed. I was clear about suspecting you.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1395 Post by worcej » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:18 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:46 pm
I really can't disagree with the read of me. Yesterday's EOD does look absolutely terrible on me. Indefensible, really. EOD I should just refresh this page instead of relying on the bot when I'm on my phone.
It isn’t the worst thing ever, it just sucked from my perspective because I really didn’t think Bona was town and there was only Jamie, Bona, myself, and you here - so you effectively forced a no kill or bona.

Pick your boot straps up and brush off the dust.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1396 Post by worcej » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:19 pm

Did think* he was town.

Fucking phone.

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Re: M1024: Flumhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1397 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:34 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:48 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:00 am
Fluminator wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:05 pm


That is actually the primary one on my mind right now. Rdr Worcej makes sense to me too, is that one of your pairs?
After reading how the end of D2 went, I think these are good possibilities. Neon would say rdrivera/worcej or KoalaAttack/worcej are more likely. I would go with rdrivera/worcej right now.
What a weird post.

Why are you speculating about what PrincessNeon would think?

Neon is not in this game.

Why bring up a person who is not in the game, speculate about what their reads would be if they were playing, and then insert this fictional read from a non-player into your own commentary?
It was a reference that I think those who are interested in what I am saying will understand.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1398 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:40 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:18 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:00 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:08 pm
Anyway, I need to cast a vote.

I thought the Bozo tunnel might be scum Bozo, but he improved today.
Só I am not sure anymore.

I think Worcej including TFB on his reads is lazy (or drunk) Worcej but not sure if this is scum Worcej. His defense of himself looks more town angry then scum catched on a scumslip.

I will ##vote Bona because it ties the voting and the voting is pretty still right now.
worcej wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:16 pm
Apparently damo isn't a consensus...

##vote bozo

I town Jamie hard and have a town-lean on bona far more than I do bozo.
rdrivera and worcej placing their final D2 votes on opposite town wagons for less than compelling reasons is consistent with them being mafia.
Bozo, worcej's final D2 vote was on Hamilton Brian, not you.

You're mistaken to describe that as his "final D2 vote" unless you are telling us that you know for certain that HB is town.
Yes, saying that was worcej's final vote was not accurate. However, worcej town reading Bonatogether and voting for HB at EOD was still the opposite position from rdrivera.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1399 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:41 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:34 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:18 pm
You're mistaken to describe that as his "final D2 vote" unless you are telling us that you know for certain that HB is town.
This sentence is clumsy and I should re-phrase it. What I mean is, you (TheBozo) are mistaken to say that you know Worcej's "final D2 vote" was on town, unless you're telling us that you know HB's alignment.

TheBozo, the last time you made this mistake, involving my vote, it was because you were looking at the Bot whilst forgetting the context in which the vote was placed.

This time, can you explain what led to your error? The bot very clearly shows that Worcej's last vote in D2 was for Hamilton Brian. Moreover, the GM's end of day summary also clearly shows Worcej's vote being on HB when day ended. Plus, if you reviewed the events of EoD2, you couldn't fail to notice Worcej shouting at HB for tying the vote, and trying to get a flash-wagon on HB in motion.

It appears that sometimes you only notice votes when they involve you. You engaged in misleading questioning of me yesterday because my vote moved off my joke "the" vote, and onto you. Now in considering EoD2 you notice Worcej voting for you, but you don't notice him moving off you onto HB.

Are you selectively just looking for people voting you and seeking to shade them?
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1400 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:30 pm
Scum to Town, updated:

bozotheclown
rdrivera2005
​Hamilton Brian
damo666
KoalaAttack
worcej
Flumin​ator
Jamiet99uk

Rdrivera has moved up because:

(a) He has been super inactive and his D2 was particularly egregious in this regard. I will re-read if I have time before EoN but I cannot call to mind a single thing he has done which would incline me to townread him.

(b) Rdrivera is dangerous as scum and letting him coast quietly into the endgame would be a serious problem if he is indeed scum.

(c) He just feels off.

Bozo is still at the top of my list after the latest example of being wrong about who Worcej was even voting for at EoD, which, as I said, strikes me as Bozo lazily looking for his own name rather than actually paying attention to everything that is going on. This strikes me as a scum!Bozo meta based on recent experiences.

Hamilton Brian has to be in contention if Bozo is scum, for obvious reasons.

Flum and Worcej scream town to me now and if I'm wrong about either, I'm sorry.
What makes you think worcej is likely to be town, other than his "strong" town read of you?

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