M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[KoalaAttack]

I miss Mafia Chat.

Look Mafia I'm going to change my reads in unpredictable ways, please NK me and send me to the God Thread to hang out and argue with ghug about the level of my contribution to losing the game.

I also may or may not have super-powers to save myself, you'll never know

[worcej]

Sorry I missed it. My player character in d&d died today.

Bona is understandable kill although he was a lot more townie today.

Can someone please summarize the case on Brian? He's one of my strongest town reads

I was more mad at him causing a tie at EOD which resulted in bona dying due to vote distribution and lack of people being around to move

[worcej]

In case I die today, I'm pretty confident rdr is scum at this point

Where were you when I scummed him D1 and then wanted him during D2 too?

Also - character death in TTRPGs is awesome. I love making new characters.

[worcej]

In case I die today, I'm pretty confident rdr is scum at this point

Why's that?

I'll try to write up a case when I can.

We need to squash this Bozo/HB scum team belief.

I think they're both town now. Bozo looked much better today. I'll try to explain that too when I can lol

I don’t think there is a strong belief that HB and bozo are scum, but it’s really fucking annoying HB’s vote move tied it and forced us into either killing bona or causing a no kill, both of which sucked

[worcej]

PS: I must say, worcej is way nicer in this game than in the game you GMed... and given that worcej said about his own Mafia-tell, this is interesting

You aren’t being obstinate in the face of a PR claim from me, FWIW.

[Fluminator]

##vote damo

I don’t like damo’s rdr vote and lack of content outside of the Koala stuff as I mentioned.

Why didn't you like damo's Rdr vote?

[Fluminator]

I think the main thing I suspect about Rdr is meta. If you look at his town games he's much more engaged.
He's struggling this game.

Maybe I don't have a longer post about it lol.

[Fluminator]

Another thing is if I count up townie things every player has done, RDR is currently the only player I still have at a 0 so it's soft poe.
(Obviously at least one scum has done something I find a little townie)

[bozotheclown]

I'll try to write up a case when I can.

We need to squash this Bozo/HB scum team belief.

I think they're both town now. Bozo looked much better today. I'll try to explain that too when I can lol

Yeah. I think it may be rdr Koala.

That is actually the primary one on my mind right now. Rdr Worcej makes sense to me too, is that one of your pairs?

After reading how the end of D2 went, I think these are good possibilities. Neon would say rdrivera/worcej or KoalaAttack/worcej are more likely. I would go with rdrivera/worcej right now.

[bozotheclown]

I also like how Bona is encouraging me to break the rules and talking to someone who is not in the game

So to summarize ... trolls,

posts
short
separate
things
boosting
post
count

doesn't really engage with actual questions directed at them (such as Fluminator's about me from last game) in depth

tells me to focus on solving and not on the KirbyKoala gimmick while engaging in his own joking around

and feels strangely familiar to the Bona from Mafia Chat last game

2.5 on the Towniness scale of 10 being Town and 1 being Mafia

##VOTE Bonatogether

for now, with his favorite emoji of all time

can you point out any similarities in my play between this game and last beyond 'joking around'

All my other points above. Also something about your voting pattern D1 reminds me of last game, it's too perfect a timing. Looks so good how you moved to put Kak in the lead, just Mafia Bona would do.

What were you referring to here about Bonatogether putting Kakarroto in the lead?

[bozotheclown]

I may miss EOD. I suggest not mis-killing me today.

Votes not being static, what’s your next vote placement of Worcej falls out of contention?

Bonatogether would have been my second choice, but looking back I should not have doubted that Kakarroto trying to pocket Bonatogether was likely.

[bozotheclown]

Rdr feels off too but he's earned a one round immunity being the go-to N1 Mafia kill.

Ghug and Bona both make a lot of sense as Mafia 2x in a row players too lol.

You always scumread me, lol. And this time I can't even OMGUS you as I think you are town.

Right now I won't vote for Flum, Kak and HB as I believe they are town. Flum because of the weird claim, Kak because of the setup discussions and HR because of the number thing and the reaction to Flum.

I will ##vote TheFlyingBoat as he is the one I just don't remember anything he said this game and he usually have an Impact.

I had considered this one of the Kakarroto interactions that looked more like town than mafia, but I think it makes sense for rdrivera to throw one of his teammates in his town reads.

[bozotheclown]

Mid-drive to Dryden, ON atm and unsure how much longer I will have reception.

I town Jamie atm. His vibe is definitely about trying to solve and contribute to the game.
I believe Koala is town but his voting mechanic does not lock him into it.
I think Kak is town with some of his posts about setup, but this could be easy to fake too.
I don’t feel like Flum, ghug, damo, TFB, or Bona have done anything to give me an alignment read.
Bozo hasn’t actually done anything really yet.
HB’s anti-vibe list rubs me the wrong way, but not enough to really make me scum him.
Rdr seemed off to me initially. He’s the most negative opinion I have at this point, so putting a ##vote rdr in to ensure I meet game requirements.

I am speculating/assuming that your vote for Flum isn't serious?

No, my scum pool is currently bozo/damo/rdr

##vote damo

I don’t like damo’s rdr vote and lack of content outside of the Koala stuff as I mentioned.

It is not clear from this why worcej would not like damo’s vote for rdrivera.

[bozotheclown]

Apparently damo isn't a consensus...

##vote bozo

I town Jamie hard and have a town-lean on bona far more than I do bozo.

This looks like worcej is trying to pocket Jamie.

[KoalaAttack]

All my other points above. Also something about your voting pattern D1 reminds me of last game, it's too perfect a timing. Looks so good how you moved to put Kak in the lead, just Mafia Bona would do.

What were you referring to here about Bonatogether putting Kakarroto in the lead?

He didn't, I was wrong – which Bona also pointed out later to his credit, but I ignored his correction because I was tunneled on him for behaving similar to last game in my eyes.

The bit I was referring to was this:
00:44 The Bon➙boz 3 Kak 3 Koa 2 boz 2 The
00:14 Bon Koa➙boz 3 Kak 3 boz 2 Koa 2 The

I made that assessment from memory during a flurry of responses to Bona – I correctly remembered myself being tied with Kak D1, and I correctly remembered Bona switching away from me to someone else at that time – which I figured meant that Bona effectively put Kak in the lead.

What I failed to realize when I made the above statement was that Bona switched away to yourself Bozo, and you were already at 2 – so, in effect, Bona swapped from 3/3/2 of Kak/Koa/Boz to 3/3/2 of Kak/Boz/Koa, swapping me for you.

[bozotheclown]

Anyway, I need to cast a vote.

I thought the Bozo tunnel might be scum Bozo, but he improved today.
Só I am not sure anymore.

I think Worcej including TFB on his reads is lazy (or drunk) Worcej but not sure if this is scum Worcej. His defense of himself looks more town angry then scum catched on a scumslip.

I will ##vote Bona because it ties the voting and the voting is pretty still right now.

Apparently damo isn't a consensus...

##vote bozo

I town Jamie hard and have a town-lean on bona far more than I do bozo.

rdrivera and worcej placing their final D2 votes on opposite town wagons for less than compelling reasons is consistent with them being mafia.

[bozotheclown]

All my other points above. Also something about your voting pattern D1 reminds me of last game, it's too perfect a timing. Looks so good how you moved to put Kak in the lead, just Mafia Bona would do.

What were you referring to here about Bonatogether putting Kakarroto in the lead?

He didn't, I was wrong – which Bona also pointed out later to his credit, but I ignored his correction because I was tunneled on him for behaving similar to last game in my eyes.

The bit I was referring to was this:
00:44 The Bon➙boz 3 Kak 3 Koa 2 boz 2 The
00:14 Bon Koa➙boz 3 Kak 3 boz 2 Koa 2 The

I made that assessment from memory during a flurry of responses to Bona – I correctly remembered myself being tied with Kak D1, and I correctly remembered Bona switching away from me to someone else at that time – which I figured meant that Bona effectively put Kak in the lead.

What I failed to realize when I made the above statement was that Bona switched away to yourself Bozo, and you were already at 2 – so, in effect, Bona swapped from 3/3/2 of Kak/Koa/Boz to 3/3/2 of Kak/Boz/Koa, swapping me for you.

OK, thanks for the explanation.

[bozotheclown]

There might be something we don't know about this setup that means we do not have a mis-kill left like we would expect in a standard 9/3 game. However, at this point, I would be surprised if any of damo, Fluminator, HB, or KoalaAttack are mafia, and I think there is a consensus of opinion among this group that I generally agree with. I also think rdrivera/worcej is the most likely mafia combination, and if they are the remaining mafia, and we do have a mis-kill left, they are probably trying to figure out how they can get to the last day with me and Jamie still in the game, or if we do not have a mis-kill left, how they can get me mis-killed D3.

[Jamiet99uk]

Yeah. I think it may be rdr Koala.

That is actually the primary one on my mind right now. Rdr Worcej makes sense to me too, is that one of your pairs?

After reading how the end of D2 went, I think these are good possibilities. Neon would say rdrivera/worcej or KoalaAttack/worcej are more likely. I would go with rdrivera/worcej right now.

What a weird post.

Why are you speculating about what PrincessNeon would think?

Neon is not in this game.

Why bring up a person who is not in the game, speculate about what their reads would be if they were playing, and then insert this fictional read from a non-player into your own commentary?

[Jamiet99uk]

can you point out any similarities in my play between this game and last beyond 'joking around'

All my other points above. Also something about your voting pattern D1 reminds me of last game, it's too perfect a timing. Looks so good how you moved to put Kak in the lead, just Mafia Bona would do.

What were you referring to here about Bonatogether putting Kakarroto in the lead?

Good observation Bozo.

@Koala: None of Bona's votes on D1 caused Kak to become the lead wagon, you're mistaken there.