MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1481 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:45 pm

I dont think damo and tfb can be scum together here. I dislike how long into the day it was before TFB suddenly had a scumread besides swords

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1482 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:45 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:40 pm
Shit. On a wagon with all my scum leans. Not good.
what a bullshit reason to suddenly move

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1483 Post by Fluminator » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:46 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:44 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:45 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:32 pm


It's day ONE. I bet you are not comparing like with like.
Scum (alpha): viewtopic.php?p=320131#p320131

Scum (alpha): viewtopic.php?p=273446#p273446

Town (ordered, though in response to a bozo survey): http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 47#p248247

I mean I did a quick perusal of games going back to M69 and the only times you ever seem to give full reads lists D1 are when you're scum (both times alphabetized) or in response to a survey (in which case you gave it ordered).

OK, so I was re-reading TFB per Bozo's prompt to see if I should reconsider. And I found this post.

As a Data Scientist, this analysis is incorrect because it does not mean the threshold of what we call statistical significance, not even close.

But on the Random Fact Logic level, this is a very compelling case. Hmm. I now have more suspicion of TFB and at the same time more suspicion of Damo. And maybe slightly less suspicion of Bozo? Hmm.
TFB, how many scum games has Damo had where he doesn't give a list?

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#1484 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:46 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:40 pm
##vote damo
what a brave move to such a risky wagon! a medal for bongo

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1485 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:46 pm

damo lives in the UK and also is not usually around for EODs? is this correct? or am I just making that up

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#1486 Post by Fluminator » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:47 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:45 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:39 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:38 pm
@Flum this is a sincere question

do you not think that any of the top three wagons are potential scum here?
I could see Bona being scum, but he's got more than enough votes right now and going to die regardless of what I say

@Bona, you're going to die, can you tell us who you think is scum on your wagon?
i don't agree with your premise

swordsman is unreadable
chaqa is accusing me but i don't care
damo is acting stupid which i believe is a towntell for him
eden keeps asking people (me) to elaborate but has not posted as much as i would expect from him
Has Chaqa been wrong on you before historically?

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1487 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:47 pm

##VOTE Bunny

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1488 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:47 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:44 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:45 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:32 pm


It's day ONE. I bet you are not comparing like with like.
Scum (alpha): viewtopic.php?p=320131#p320131

Scum (alpha): viewtopic.php?p=273446#p273446

Town (ordered, though in response to a bozo survey): http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 47#p248247

I mean I did a quick perusal of games going back to M69 and the only times you ever seem to give full reads lists D1 are when you're scum (both times alphabetized) or in response to a survey (in which case you gave it ordered).

OK, so I was re-reading TFB per Bozo's prompt to see if I should reconsider. And I found this post.

As a Data Scientist, this analysis is incorrect because it does not mean the threshold of what we call statistical significance, not even close.

But on the Random Fact Logic level, this is a very compelling case. Hmm. I now have more suspicion of TFB and at the same time more suspicion of Damo. And maybe slightly less suspicion of Bozo? Hmm.
I mean yes, if you were to run a chi-squared test it would probably fail, but in mafia we will rarely get the sample sizes to get nice pretty p-values <0.05. It is something concrete-ish which is more than any other wagon has.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1489 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:47 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:41 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:40 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:30 pm


Here let me help

##vote bona
this screams opportunistic
As opposed to me saying all day I’d be happy to vote you? What does opportunistic mean to you?
i didn't think you were scumreading me
i thought you just disliked that i posted so much

opportunistic means you're jumping on and off my wagon on the flimsiest reasonings lmao (oh no i'm voting with people i scumread! i suddenly care about that and will vote for damo)

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1490 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:47 pm

##vote bunnygo


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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1492 Post by President Eden » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:48 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:45 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:40 pm
Shit. On a wagon with all my scum leans. Not good.
what a bullshit reason to suddenly move
🚐

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1493 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:48 pm

Panzer Attack on Bunnygo

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1494 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:49 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:44 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:45 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:32 pm


It's day ONE. I bet you are not comparing like with like.
Scum (alpha): viewtopic.php?p=320131#p320131

Scum (alpha): viewtopic.php?p=273446#p273446

Town (ordered, though in response to a bozo survey): http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 47#p248247

I mean I did a quick perusal of games going back to M69 and the only times you ever seem to give full reads lists D1 are when you're scum (both times alphabetized) or in response to a survey (in which case you gave it ordered).

OK, so I was re-reading TFB per Bozo's prompt to see if I should reconsider. And I found this post.

As a Data Scientist, this analysis is incorrect because it does not mean the threshold of what we call statistical significance, not even close.

But on the Random Fact Logic level, this is a very compelling case. Hmm. I now have more suspicion of TFB and at the same time more suspicion of Damo. And maybe slightly less suspicion of Bozo? Hmm.
the data range is limited. statistical significance is bullshit, but you have to be right eventually. also there's not just random wack numbers but actual reasonings and things you can understand to make things work out

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1495 Post by Fluminator » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:49 pm

##Vote Bunnygo

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1496 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:49 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:47 pm
##vote bunnygo
I thought you didn't like wagoning someone new EoD.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1497 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:49 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:47 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:45 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:39 pm

I could see Bona being scum, but he's got more than enough votes right now and going to die regardless of what I say

@Bona, you're going to die, can you tell us who you think is scum on your wagon?
i don't agree with your premise

swordsman is unreadable
chaqa is accusing me but i don't care
damo is acting stupid which i believe is a towntell for him
eden keeps asking people (me) to elaborate but has not posted as much as i would expect from him
Has Chaqa been wrong on you before historically?
i believe once he townread me when i was scum

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1498 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:50 pm

President Eden wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:48 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:45 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:40 pm
Shit. On a wagon with all my scum leans. Not good.
what a bullshit reason to suddenly move
🚐
vote me

no balls

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1499 Post by damo666 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:50 pm

With all these vote swaps one of the lead wagons is very likely scum. Not me though.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1500 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:50 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:48 pm
Panzer Attack on Bunnygo
here for it

##vote bunnygo

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