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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#81 Post by damo666 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:21 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:18 pm
Free guess

Li Zicheng
Is this outstanding or refunded due to Japan being confirmed?

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#82 Post by han-shahanshah » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:40 pm

As I said, it is someone from Japan and not China. Anyone who guessed someone from China has their free guess refunded.

It is not Koxinga (I wasn’t aware he was born in Japan— good to know!)

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#83 Post by supi13 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:02 pm

Free guess: is it Tokugawa Ieyasu?

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#84 Post by JECE » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:20 pm

han-shahanshah wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:40 pm
As I said, it is someone from Japan and not China. Anyone who guessed someone from China has their free guess refunded.

It is not Koxinga (I wasn’t aware he was born in Japan— good to know!)
Well, the beans were already spilled since he didn't die until after 1650. But I get another free guess, then?

I didn't realize that he was born in Japan either, ha ha.
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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#85 Post by han-shahanshah » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:33 pm

You do get another free guess.

Not Tokugawa Ieyasu

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#86 Post by Doom427 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:55 pm

Oda Nobunaga

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#87 Post by DougJoe » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:44 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:57 pm
DougJoe wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:26 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:24 am
Well, if he died before 1650 (or our GM explicitly retracts Japan, I think I'll use my free guess on one of the three following persons:
Oda Nobunaga
Toyotomi Hideyoshi
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Don't forget about Shingen Takeda, the Tiger of Kai, and Kenshin Uesugi, the Dragon of Echigo!
Yeah, there were many important personalities at the time, though personally I tend to think of the winning side more; and honestly, I think it's probably something like a 50/50 between Nobunaga and Ieyasu, at least for me.
I played a NES game way back when called _Shingen the Ruler_ where Shingen Takeda was the protagonist, so I always think of him first in that period. I never played _Nobunaga's Ambition_.

The signs in Ryu's stage from _Street Fighter II_ are a shortened version of Takeda's battle standard (which itself came from Sun Tzu's _Art of War_.)

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#88 Post by DougJoe » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:49 pm

Was this person a samurai?

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#89 Post by han-shahanshah » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:49 pm

Not Oda Nobunaga.

At this rate it’s down to very few candidates and a smart player would use conditionals to guess multiple people..

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#90 Post by han-shahanshah » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:50 pm

Yes if you count daimyos as samurais.. this has essentially been answered by question twelve though.

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#91 Post by DougJoe » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:03 am

han-shahanshah wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:50 pm
Yes if you count daimyos as samurais.. this has essentially been answered by question twelve though.
Q 12 seemed to leave a lot of military options open (lots of and/ors)... and samurai worked for daimyos, right? So personally I wouldn't consider them the same.

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#92 Post by DougJoe » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:06 am

DougJoe wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:03 am
han-shahanshah wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:50 pm
Yes if you count daimyos as samurais.. this has essentially been answered by question twelve though.
Q 12 seemed to leave a lot of military options open (lots of and/ors)... and samurai worked for daimyos, right? So personally I wouldn't consider them the same.
...although Wikipedia says that some daimyos were promoted samurai, but I was thinking of a couple of samurai who were never daimyos (Hattori Hanzo and Miyamoto Musashi).

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#93 Post by DougJoe » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:10 am

Free guess: since the other two "great unifiers" have been guessed, I'll try the third, Toyotomi Hideyoshi.

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#94 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:00 am

han-shahanshah wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:40 pm
As I said, it is someone from Japan and not China. Anyone who guessed someone from China has their free guess refunded.

It is not Koxinga (I wasn’t aware he was born in Japan— good to know!)
Where did you say this?

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#95 Post by han-shahanshah » Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:07 am

I verified Kakarroto’s earlier interpretation.
DougJoe wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:10 am
Free guess: since the other two "great unifiers" have been guessed, I'll try the third, Toyotomi Hideyoshi.
Nope, not him.
DougJoe wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:06 am
DougJoe wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:03 am
han-shahanshah wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:50 pm
Yes if you count daimyos as samurais.. this has essentially been answered by question twelve though.
Q 12 seemed to leave a lot of military options open (lots of and/ors)... and samurai worked for daimyos, right? So personally I wouldn't consider them the same.
...although Wikipedia says that some daimyos were promoted samurai, but I was thinking of a couple of samurai who were never daimyos (Hattori Hanzo and Miyamoto Musashi).
Wikipedia does not explicitly call him a samurai but a daimyo.

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#96 Post by JECE » Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:25 am

There are so many and we only have one question left:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... oku_period

The entertainer question and response is interesting.
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Was this man an entertainer (including actor, music man, poet, comedian, painter, sculptor, magician, circus performer, competitive eating champion, or writer of fiction) ?
Although he could conceivably fit some of those descriptions depending on interpretation, I would not call him an entertainer.
Many daimyo were poets and some of the Wikipedia articles even include their death poems. But the word "some" suggests that historians have verified that this man also painted and/or played a musical instrument.
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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#97 Post by han-shahanshah » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:55 am

Eh, wouldn’t read so much into that answer.

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#98 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:53 pm

I seriously doubt this person is famous or even vaguely well known.

I'm out.

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#99 Post by han-shahanshah » Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:43 pm

His name has already been mentioned…

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Re: Twenty Questions, Game 90

#100 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:03 pm

han-shahanshah wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:43 pm
His name has already been mentioned…
Well I submitted a guess twice and you ignored me both times so I'm losing track to be honest.

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