Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:03 am
I do hope people in the god chat can appreciate how difficult this is.
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So it's gonna be up to me. I'm not sure if Chaqa is genuinely in a quandary or faking it.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:46 amVOTE COUNT 7.1.1
Chaqa (1) - rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 (1) - Chaqa
Currently NOBODY.
A variable amount of time remains but currently the countdown is at 46 hours and 13 minutes.
Does scum Chaqa say this?
Followed by this
And this
Trying to hide the fact that he did and therefore knows you can?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:21 pmI think you can change the NK unless everyone else voted to hammer (and I know I didn't).
@Chaqa - I was re-reading Balki and you just ignored this message. Any comments?Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:02 pmIf this day ends soon, and Bozo is scum, and tomorrow the vote is between me and Chaqa, then whomever casts that vote, please focus on two things:
(1) The subject matter of lfischl’s Day 1 posts and (2) Chaqa’s complete lack of saying anything negative (or anything at all) about lfischl, despite saying lfischl was his leading scum read and voting for lfischl when there was no attention there at all.
Assuming the team is Chaqa/Bozo/lfischl, Chaqa has done something similar here to what he did with lfischl. He casts a bus vote, and then he asks others to switch.
He wants credit for the bus, but his preferred action is obviously to save a teammate.
Well, it wasn’t addressed to me, and I answered all of his questions previously, it’s not my problem if he kept wanting “better” answers.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:57 pm@Chaqa - I was re-reading Balki and you just ignored this message. Any comments?Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:02 pmIf this day ends soon, and Bozo is scum, and tomorrow the vote is between me and Chaqa, then whomever casts that vote, please focus on two things:
(1) The subject matter of lfischl’s Day 1 posts and (2) Chaqa’s complete lack of saying anything negative (or anything at all) about lfischl, despite saying lfischl was his leading scum read and voting for lfischl when there was no attention there at all.
Assuming the team is Chaqa/Bozo/lfischl, Chaqa has done something similar here to what he did with lfischl. He casts a bus vote, and then he asks others to switch.
He wants credit for the bus, but his preferred action is obviously to save a teammate.
I didn't remember any time a night was hammered, I suppose it's like day hammer where you can undend if majority wasn't reached. I PMed Jamiet and the night was hammered shortly after so I suppose my hammer was last.damo666 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:43 pmTrying to hide the fact that he did and therefore knows you can?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:21 pmI think you can change the NK unless everyone else voted to hammer (and I know I didn't).
This post from rivera is weird. You say it's scummy that Bozo isn't invested, but then you town read Bozo for "stating the obvious, vibes, feel..."???rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:20 pmI still think you are town but this post is really bad. If you are town you should not want to sacrifice yourself. Townies have two goals: finding scum and showing they are townies to other town people. Town usually win by forming a town core and not by some next level PR play.KoalaAttack wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:00 pmInteresting, no-one voted for me so far. So I feel I should post this preemptively, just in case folks do vote for me – I don't want this post to come across as being reactive to that.
- I still believe that following through on the binding vote makes the most sense and is the optimal move. For reasons of Pool of Elimination coupled with yavozovic thread.
- If you disagree, I humbly request that you vote for me. The rules say nothing about surviving being a part of the victory conditions AFAICT, merely that our side wins. So when my role as a Townie will be revealed upon my death, that should give the good Townies enough info to win the game IMHO – assuming they will spend the time to carefully re-read the backscroll of last night and today. So I can "pawn sacrifice" myself and it's a win/win either way in my mind.
Think about it – either the above is sincere, so let me do my "pawn sacrifice" if you are not onboard with the binding vote. Or the above is a reverse psychology attempt by a Mafia, so vote me and kill a Mafia. You win either way!
Thank you in advance!
This said, my town core now includes Balki, Koala and Worcej.
I feel Bozo and Chaq seeming just not invested in the game, which is a bit scummy. Lfishcl and Yav are just coasting and are not bad choices too. But I will keep my ##vote Damo, his reads are just platitudes. Town read Bozo for stating the obvious, vibes, feel...
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:51 pmI smell a bluff here. Why use the unnecessary 'will'? Anybody else get that vibe?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:41 pmGreetings fellow townies and some evil outlaws. Just forgot this game was starting on Sunday. At least there are only 4 pages to read.
And I will claim 100% confirmed vanilla town at first post just to avoid any shenanigans over this.
This interaction is one scum and one town, but which is which?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:19 pmThis shit is really annoying. I have to claim first thing all games because of you that exposed me as PR the game I didn't. Are you PR fishing this time or just being obnoxious?damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:51 pmI smell a bluff here. Why use the unnecessary 'will'? Anybody else get that vibe?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:41 pmGreetings fellow townies and some evil outlaws. Just forgot this game was starting on Sunday. At least there are only 4 pages to read.
And I will claim 100% confirmed vanilla town at first post just to avoid any shenanigans over this.
So, I hard claim 100% confirmed vanilla town . Happy?
Unless it's 2 town.....Chaqa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:54 pmdamo666 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:51 pmI smell a bluff here. Why use the unnecessary 'will'? Anybody else get that vibe?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:41 pmGreetings fellow townies and some evil outlaws. Just forgot this game was starting on Sunday. At least there are only 4 pages to read.
And I will claim 100% confirmed vanilla town at first post just to avoid any shenanigans over this.This interaction is one scum and one town, but which is which?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:19 pmThis shit is really annoying. I have to claim first thing all games because of you that exposed me as PR the game I didn't. Are you PR fishing this time or just being obnoxious?
So, I hard claim 100% confirmed vanilla town . Happy?
rdr only half hearted support for gambler, no reason given for voting merdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:58 amAgree with you here, Mafia won’t kill the voted player (if we vote Mafia for obviously reasons and if we vote town they won't kill a sure miskill).Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:33 amOur Process of Elimination or Pool of Elimination ("POE") is the group of players we narrow down for daykills. If we can avoid moving scum out of our POE, and correctly place enough townies outside of our POE, we win by simply killing everyone in our POE.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:28 am
Alright, I feel like I am losing you. What do you mean town-led? Is that a more meaningful push than volunteering?
So we vote someone, Mafia kill them...what sort of immediate info do we gert?
I'm too inevriated to make a lot of sense. Just say, wait until tomorrow Brian.
Whomever ends up the leading vote getter tonight is going to be someone in the heart of our POE. It is going to be someone who is suspicious to many of us, and who we are going to need to daykill eventually to narrow down the roster. If Mafia want to deny gambler an item by using a night kill on someone squarely in our POE, then that is a win for town, and we'll have a normal Day 2 where we kill someone else in our POE.
On theory I agree with this idea, as making sure Gambler get an item is great, even with some items being weak. But in practice we might have a voting with less participation as night is shorter and lot of people participate even less at night. We also need to set an "end of voting" time, so the gambler could submit his order without worrying with changes and this might be tricky considering different tome zones and schedules.
##vote Damo