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Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:09 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:05 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:58 pm

How about you spend your time reading the game and telling us what you've learned based on all of the new information that you have from all the flips/clear towns. I think that would be more productive than a bunch of voting that is meaningless because the town clears are going to make the final decisions and so anything any of the VTs says has no consequence.

Sincerely,
Balki

There's no new information to be gleaned. Lfischl was scum as I thought and worcej was doctor as he claimed. The game state is the same and to me it's just a matter of figuring out which order we go through the suspects in.

We recently learned:

ghug is town
Yav is town
Bunny is town
Koala is town
worcej is town
Lfischl is scum

You were aware of all that before we learned it?

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:33 pm

Why don't we RCV this bitch.

Candidates: Balki, bozo, bo_sox, Chaqa, damo, rivera

My ballot:
1 - Damo
2 - Balki
3- Bozo
4 - Bo_sox
5 - Rivera

Please submit your Mafia RCV ballot.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:33 pm

Why don't we RCV this bitch.

Candidates: Balki, bozo, bo_sox, Chaqa, damo, rivera

My ballot:
1 - Damo
2 - Balki
3- Bozo
4 - Bo_sox
5 - Rivera

Please submit your Mafia RCV ballot.

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:09 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:05 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:58 pm

How about you spend your time reading the game and telling us what you've learned based on all of the new information that you have from all the flips/clear towns. I think that would be more productive than a bunch of voting that is meaningless because the town clears are going to make the final decisions and so anything any of the VTs says has no consequence.

Sincerely,
Balki

There's no new information to be gleaned. Lfischl was scum as I thought and worcej was doctor as he claimed. The game state is the same and to me it's just a matter of figuring out which order we go through the suspects in.

We recently learned:

ghug is town
Yav is town
Bunny is town
Koala is town
worcej is town
Lfischl is scum

You were aware of all that before we learned it?

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:36 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:09 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:05 pm

There's no new information to be gleaned. Lfischl was scum as I thought and worcej was doctor as he claimed. The game state is the same and to me it's just a matter of figuring out which order we go through the suspects in.

We recently learned:

ghug is town
Yav is town
Bunny is town
Koala is town
worcej is town
Lfischl is scum

You were aware of all that before we learned it?

Yes, he was.

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:09 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:05 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:58 pm

How about you spend your time reading the game and telling us what you've learned based on all of the new information that you have from all the flips/clear towns. I think that would be more productive than a bunch of voting that is meaningless because the town clears are going to make the final decisions and so anything any of the VTs says has no consequence.

Sincerely,
Balki

There's no new information to be gleaned. Lfischl was scum as I thought and worcej was doctor as he claimed. The game state is the same and to me it's just a matter of figuring out which order we go through the suspects in.

We recently learned:

ghug is town
Yav is town
Bunny is town
Koala is town
worcej is town
Lfischl is scum

You were aware of all that before we learned it?

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:24 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:09 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:05 pm

There's no new information to be gleaned. Lfischl was scum as I thought and worcej was doctor as he claimed. The game state is the same and to me it's just a matter of figuring out which order we go through the suspects in.

We recently learned:

ghug is town
Yav is town
Bunny is town
Koala is town
worcej is town
Lfischl is scum

You were aware of all that before we learned it?

I made my determinations about the game state after the mass claim yesterday. Nothing new has happened since then that I would say warrants re-examining that.

You keep presenting me with these knowingly unreasonable tasks and questions, I can only assume it's being done in bad faith and therefore I don't think I'll engage with you any more.

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:58 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:33 pm

Why don't we RCV this bitch.

Candidates: Balki, bozo, bo_sox, Chaqa, damo, rivera

My ballot:
1 - Damo
2 - Balki
3- Bozo
4 - Bo_sox
5 - Rivera

Please submit your Mafia RCV ballot.

How about you spend your time reading the game and telling us what you've learned based on all of the new information that you have from all the flips/clear towns. I think that would be more productive than a bunch of voting that is meaningless because the town clears are going to make the final decisions and so anything any of the VTs says has no consequence.

Sincerely,
Balki

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:39 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:58 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:33 pm

Why don't we RCV this bitch.

Candidates: Balki, bozo, bo_sox, Chaqa, damo, rivera

My ballot:
1 - Damo
2 - Balki
3- Bozo
4 - Bo_sox
5 - Rivera

Please submit your Mafia RCV ballot.

How about you spend your time reading the game and telling us what you've learned based on all of the new information that you have from all the flips/clear towns. I think that would be more productive than a bunch of voting that is meaningless because the town clears are going to make the final decisions and so anything any of the VTs says has no consequence.

Sincerely,
Balki

Why is the highlighted true? Only tracker or watcher might know anything a vt doesn't but I doubt that's the case or we would have heard by now.

If we all blindly follow the PRs we get no VCA and if they've chosen a town it's easy for scum to get a hidden mk. And what if (as currently) Koala and Bunny are voting differently? Who do you follow?

You have said you will follow the PRs. This is prima facie townie but an easy thing for scum to say (and do).

Balki shifting => Scum

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:45 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:39 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:58 pm

How about you spend your time reading the game and telling us what you've learned based on all of the new information that you have from all the flips/clear towns. I think that would be more productive than a bunch of voting that is meaningless because the town clears are going to make the final decisions and so anything any of the VTs says has no consequence.

Sincerely,
Balki

Why is the highlighted true? Only tracker or watcher might know anything a vt doesn't but I doubt that's the case or we would have heard by now.

If we all blindly follow the PRs we get no VCA and if they've chosen a town it's easy for scum to get a hidden mk. And what if (as currently) Koala and Bunny are voting differently? Who do you follow?

You have said you will follow the PRs. This is prima facie townie but an easy thing for scum to say (and do).

Balki shifting => Scum

We are down to a small enough number that town basically has to vote together to succeed. When we have at least one clear, that is much easier. The clears decide. They will wind up on the same person in the end.

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:45 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:39 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:58 pm

How about you spend your time reading the game and telling us what you've learned based on all of the new information that you have from all the flips/clear towns. I think that would be more productive than a bunch of voting that is meaningless because the town clears are going to make the final decisions and so anything any of the VTs says has no consequence.

Sincerely,
Balki

Why is the highlighted true? Only tracker or watcher might know anything a vt doesn't but I doubt that's the case or we would have heard by now.

If we all blindly follow the PRs we get no VCA and if they've chosen a town it's easy for scum to get a hidden mk. And what if (as currently) Koala and Bunny are voting differently? Who do you follow?

You have said you will follow the PRs. This is prima facie townie but an easy thing for scum to say (and do).

Balki shifting => Scum

We are down to a small enough number that town basically has to vote together to succeed. When we have at least one clear, that is much easier. The clears decide. They will wind up on the same person in the end.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:02 pm

The only downside in Koala making a gambler/not gambler declaration I can think of is that if he declares gambler maf will kill him before Bunny (fear of CWV). But the upside would be he could tell us his bet and we kill that person and with any luck Koala can save himself anyway. Then repeat.

Am I missing anything? Looks a no-brainer to me.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:18 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:09 pm

@Koala, it’s hard for the rest of us to speculate on whether you should give a more specific claim. You need to look at your power and consider how it may play out. Then look at all of the potential Town PR roles and consider how their potential existence impacts scum night actions.

I think that having ambiguity in both your role and Bunny’s role is very valuable. But you are in the best position to know.

I like this post.

@Balki what do you think about Bozo/Chaqa scumpair?

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:02 pm

About to drive through a storm. So not around for several hours.

@koala. Keep your cards close for now. I’d only claim things that give no intel to scum like “I was roleblocked” since the scum team KNOWS you were (for example).

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:33 pm

Why don't we RCV this bitch.

Candidates: Balki, bozo, bo_sox, Chaqa, damo, rivera

My ballot:
1 - Damo
2 - Balki
3- Bozo
4 - Bo_sox
5 - Rivera

Please submit your Mafia RCV ballot.

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:50 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:45 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:39 pm

Why is the highlighted true? Only tracker or watcher might know anything a vt doesn't but I doubt that's the case or we would have heard by now.

If we all blindly follow the PRs we get no VCA and if they've chosen a town it's easy for scum to get a hidden mk. And what if (as currently) Koala and Bunny are voting differently? Who do you follow?

You have said you will follow the PRs. This is prima facie townie but an easy thing for scum to say (and do).

Balki shifting => Scum

We are down to a small enough number that town basically has to vote together to succeed. When we have at least one clear, that is much easier. The clears decide. They will wind up on the same person in the end.

If we have only scum to catch I could agree with you, but with two scum the interactions and voting are important and leaving just to clears decide just help scum to hide.
Scum have to decide now if they try to join to get a miskill or buss each other or just try to distance and how natural or fake this interactions look are key to catch them.

At this point I am feeling Damo much more natural on his comments then you.

KoalaAttack wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:18 am

Not to mention the chance to shake loose a slop or an incongruence!