Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:39 pm
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FWIW - agree here.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:32 pmI think I would stay hidden as the CWV, in my opinion the problems a hidden CWV cause the mafia are worth the risk.
Smaller audience and also "joke phase" isn't entirely just jokes - it's more the title commonly used for people discussing non-game stuff such as pain meds, steak, travel plans, etc.
The Chaqa post did seem to come out of no where in my opinion, but that makes me more likely to town him D1 then scum him.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:37 pmChaqa is consistently trying to manipulate the group's decision-making process by sowing confusion and discord.
Interesting play here...Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:06 pmI am Civil War Veteran. I think the benefit of me claiming now outweighs the cost. I think I'm a reasonably to draw a visit from Town, and it's not worth the gamble.
If you think my choice to claim on Day 1 is dumb, let's talk about it in the AAR. It's done now.
The normal WIFOM awfulness I have right now leads me to think you made a play to become the Wolf.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:25 pmLet's talk about who seems likely to be Town and who seems likely to be a Wolf please.
"become the Wolf"? What does that mean?worcej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:45 pmThe normal WIFOM awfulness I have right now leads me to think you made a play to become the Wolf.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:25 pmLet's talk about who seems likely to be Town and who seems likely to be a Wolf please.
Are you seeking opinions here with this...?Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:11 pmJust after Bozo made a statement as to WHY NOT to claim. Nice way to stir up the posting for the day.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:06 pmI am Civil War Veteran. I think the benefit of me claiming now outweighs the cost. I think I'm a reasonably to draw a visit from Town, and it's not worth the gamble.
If you think my choice to claim on Day 1 is dumb, let's talk about it in the AAR. It's done now.
Balki is town. It is a benefit to town for them to claim because...?
Balki is town. It is NOT a benefit to town for them to claim because...?
or
Balki is mafia. same questions apply.
Open Wolfing, as I recall reading on a forum/site, is when a mafia player is actively controlling and dictating information flow in the 'wrong' direction.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:47 pm"become the Wolf"? What does that mean?worcej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:45 pmThe normal WIFOM awfulness I have right now leads me to think you made a play to become the Wolf.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:25 pmLet's talk about who seems likely to be Town and who seems likely to be a Wolf please.
I can't guess alignment from it (I could see him doing it either way, but more likely as town), but my best guess is he's lying and intends to come clean tonight. I think he wanted to shake something up? I'm not sure how I'd describe his thoughts.worcej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:48 pmAre you seeking opinions here with this...?Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:11 pmJust after Bozo made a statement as to WHY NOT to claim. Nice way to stir up the posting for the day.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:06 pmI am Civil War Veteran. I think the benefit of me claiming now outweighs the cost. I think I'm a reasonably to draw a visit from Town, and it's not worth the gamble.
If you think my choice to claim on Day 1 is dumb, let's talk about it in the AAR. It's done now.
Balki is town. It is a benefit to town for them to claim because...?
Balki is town. It is NOT a benefit to town for them to claim because...?
or
Balki is mafia. same questions apply.
##CALL GM: Does shooting someone count as a "visit"? For example, if someone shoots the Vet, does he shoot back?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:59 pmGM NOTESghug wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:51 amI'd imagine we won't hear of a gunshot, and that the vet can't be hooked, but a ##CALLGM would give a definitive answer.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:50 amI wonder what the game thread learns by way of flavor if there is a gunshot, but the target is not killed. And if Hooker visits War Vet, does hooker die or does the RB work?
Is there some place I can read to know how these rules will be enforced?
Howdy, pardners.
1. If a gunshot is fired during the day, the "A SHOT RINGS OUT" message will be posted even if there is no death.
2. The Civil War Veteran's reflexive blasting is not an "action" so it cannot be Roleblocked. The Hooker would die in the situation you mention.
I hope this is of assistance, y'all.
feel like normally he makes more of a presence in the first 24 hours of D1Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:58 pm"Off" how?
And talk more about why you townlean him for it because someone said "last game was a doozy."
also agreed especially since Balki you were already drawing attention and keeping the thread active, although maybe this is hindsight from catching up on the thread and seeing you posted a bunchworcej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:39 pmFWIW - agree here.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:32 pmI think I would stay hidden as the CWV, in my opinion the problems a hidden CWV cause the mafia are worth the risk.
I don't buy this but I like the thought process.pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:12 pmfeel like normally he makes more of a presence in the first 24 hours of D1Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:58 pm"Off" how?
And talk more about why you townlean him for it because someone said "last game was a doozy."
that's the "off"
also no mention of Chipotle yet
I think scum!Chaqa would put more work in to appear normal after a supposedly stressful game, or to appear more stressed. Being right in the middle seems like non-acting -> townlean.
I tried to bold your inferring question, to which I replied, "Definitely not." At this point in the game, don't infer anything from me. It is primarily baseless. If I start to push something I feel strongly about, then I'll announce it with better reasoning than whatever it was I said about Damo.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:21 pm
@Hamilton Brian, why did you say this: "They're flying a little too close to the sun. 'kidding' in asking if Pyxxy would self-vote then the blanket vote on Rivera."
What should we take from it? What are you saying about the things Damo did with respect to Pyxxy and Rivera and what does it say about Damo's alignment?
Interesting point; as usual a very rational Rivera response. Thanks for the input.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:24 pm
I don't know if Balki claim is true or not but I strongly think he is town. Don't see any reason for scum to fake claim about it at this moment. Don't know if the claim is a benefit for town, it depends on a lot of variables, but it's a good way to be sure you stay alive longer, which I can see Balki thinking it's a huge benefit (to him).
@worcej, what do you find interesting about it? Does it cause you to lean Balki in one direction or another?worcej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:44 pmInteresting play here...Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:06 pmI am Civil War Veteran. I think the benefit of me claiming now outweighs the cost. I think I'm a reasonably to draw a visit from Town, and it's not worth the gamble.
If you think my choice to claim on Day 1 is dumb, let's talk about it in the AAR. It's done now.