MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

##vote Bozo

##end

Bunny caught him.

How did bunny catch him?

Unend you doofus

This is a bit hilarious coming from you Chaqa, but I agree, ending before everybody posts is bad for town.

But I also agree with the vote.

##vote Bozo

I am nothing if not inconsistent.

[Chaqa]

I’m still pretty sure it’s Damo and Balki

I don't think it's Damo and won't vote him. Look at his reactions yesterday and his interactions with Bunny and see if it looks like scum Damo.

I am not sure about Balki or you.

I would be willing to vote Balki first.

[Chaqa]

By now, we essentially know that Damo and Bozo are not both Town, correct?

I would agree with that.

[Chaqa]

This is a bit hilarious coming from you Chaqa, but I agree, ending before everybody posts is bad for town.

But I also agree with the vote.

##vote Bozo

Why do you agree with the vote?

Is this how we do LYLO here? Just kinda vibes it?

No. Look what I posted yesterday. Bozo isn't hunting, he has no teeth.. His survey is weak and he really didn't follow it. He scumread Bo based on a game 3 years ago when Bo was scum 2 games ago.

IDK, that last bit sure sounds like something Bozo would do.

[Chaqa]

By now, we essentially know that Damo and Bozo are not both Town, correct?

Why? I think this is true, but how can we know for sure?

Because if Damo is Town voting for Town, scum could hammer the day?

Since this idea was floated the other day, they could also have arranged for Damo to do this specifically to increase his town cred.

[Chaqa]

##Vote Balki

[Chaqa]

Bozo does look pretty bad on VCA, and Damo a bit better.

So maybe it's Balki-Bozo and not Balki-Damo?

Still Balki, though, I think.

[bozotheclown]

The simplest explanation for the D5 voting is that damo and rdrivera are the remaining mafia and were going for the win. However, BunnyGo moved to no-kill in time to prevent a late D5 move, so it is possible Balki or Chaqa wanted to make sure BunnyGo would keep his vote on me and were waiting until EOD to be "convinced" to vote for me.

Why are you saying this? I haven’t read all that closely yet. What exactly happened and what does it prove?

Nothing is proven, but damo and rdrivera both established fairly early D5 that they would be willing to vote for me, yet even after BunnyGo voted for me they waited until late in D5 to move their votes. It seemed like they were waiting to make sure BunnyGo kept his vote on me, then moved their votes to go for the mis-kill. Or, maybe only one of them is mafia and were setting up their partner to move their vote at EOD, which BunnyGo's switch to no-kill prevented.

Also, damo expressed a lot more confidence I was mafia after BunnyGo voted for me, where earlier D5 he was keeping his options open between you, me, and Chaqa.

[Balki Bartokomous]

The simplest explanation for the D5 voting is that damo and rdrivera are the remaining mafia and were going for the win. However, BunnyGo moved to no-kill in time to prevent a late D5 move, so it is possible Balki or Chaqa wanted to make sure BunnyGo would keep his vote on me and were waiting until EOD to be "convinced" to vote for me.

Why are you saying this? I haven’t read all that closely yet. What exactly happened and what does it prove?

Nothing is proven, but damo and rdrivera both established fairly early D5 that they would be willing to vote for me, yet even after BunnyGo voted for me they waited until late in D5 to move their votes. It seemed like they were waiting to make sure BunnyGo kept his vote on me, then moved their votes to go for the mis-kill. Or, maybe only one of them is mafia and were setting up their partner to move their vote at EOD, which BunnyGo's switch to no-kill prevented.

Also, damo expressed a lot more confidence I was mafia after BunnyGo voted for me, where earlier D5 he was keeping his options open between you, me, and Chaqa.

Isn’t Damo necessarily scum from your point of view now?

[Balki Bartokomous]

My guess right now is Bozo/Chaqa, for the record, but I’d like a day to read to make sure it holds up.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I feel like Bozo is not properly considering the implication of the hammer vote in him.

With 6 of us left, does it take 3 to hammer, or 4?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Chaqa voting outside of Bozo/Damo here is foolish, but not necessarily AI.

[Chaqa]

I feel like Bozo is not properly considering the implication of the hammer vote in him.

With 6 of us left, does it take 3 to hammer, or 4?

There's only five of us left, so three.

[bozotheclown]

By now, we essentially know that Damo and Bozo are not both Town, correct?

Why? I think this is true, but how can we know for sure?

Because if Damo is Town voting for Town, scum could hammer the day?

That is true, although the mafia would have to risk being able to both hammer before damo moved his end vote. Nevertheless, it would be a very bad play to hammer as town this early in the day.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo does look pretty bad on VCA, and Damo a bit better.

So maybe it's Balki-Bozo and not Balki-Damo?

Still Balki, though, I think.

From my perspective, damo's votes look bad.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I feel like Bozo is not properly considering the implication of the hammer vote in him.

With 6 of us left, does it take 3 to hammer, or 4?

There's only five of us left, so three.

Ah, thank you.

Okay, so at least one scum in Damo/Bozo. That helps a lot.

[bozotheclown]

Why are you saying this? I haven’t read all that closely yet. What exactly happened and what does it prove?

Nothing is proven, but damo and rdrivera both established fairly early D5 that they would be willing to vote for me, yet even after BunnyGo voted for me they waited until late in D5 to move their votes. It seemed like they were waiting to make sure BunnyGo kept his vote on me, then moved their votes to go for the mis-kill. Or, maybe only one of them is mafia and were setting up their partner to move their vote at EOD, which BunnyGo's switch to no-kill prevented.

Also, damo expressed a lot more confidence I was mafia after BunnyGo voted for me, where earlier D5 he was keeping his options open between you, me, and Chaqa.

Isn’t Damo necessarily scum from your point of view now?

He is either mafia or making a very bad play as town. I don't think he would take that risk as town, so very likely mafia.

[Chaqa]

Since scum hasn't hammered Bozo, I assume two possibilities:
1. Bozo is scum and scum haven't hammered as they don't benefit.

2. Damo is scum and scum hasn't hammered because they need one more town.

In world 1, Bozo's partner is in: Balki, Chaqa, Rivera

In world 2, Damo's partner is ALSO in Balki, Chaqa, Rivera.

So, we can eliminate Bozo/Damo as a team.

We can also eliminate any team that is 2/3 of Balki, Chaqa, Rivera.

[Chaqa]

This leaves:
Bozo-Chaqa
Bozo-Balki
Bozo-Rivera
Damo-Chaqa
Damo-Balki
Damo-Rivera

As the possible scumteams.

Someone check my work.

[Chaqa]

I think we can eliminate Rivera-Bozo due to Day 4.

Damo-Chaqa
Bozo-Chaqa
---- (^ I know these are false, but I can't prove it)
Bozo-Balki
Damo-Balki
Damo-Rivera