MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

You could have broken the tie in the other direction if you found it so questionable.

Valid - you get town points from me ghug for moving to ensure the tie was broken.

Please never give anyone town points for that.

YOU TAKE THOSE POINTS AND FUCKING LIKE THEM BOY

[KoalaAttack]

Thanks for playing, yav.

Koala, what made you decide to show up for end of day after all?

bet he was lurking the whole time

You could have broken the tie in the other direction if you found it so questionable.

Sorry yavuzovic

To answer the question: I had a break between 2 calls, and I knew it was around vote end time and as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

I thought both yavuzovic or Bo were both Town. If ghug had more votes I would have switched to them instead, since I still think ghug & worcej are Mafia with their good-cop / bad-cop thing.

Re tying the vote – I confess that I was fully aware that folks here don't like to see tied votes because they feel it's a waste. I figured out as much during the first day. Since I could not vote for anyone I thought was Mafia, I figured if I tie the vote it will be informative to see in which direction folks will break it. And I reckon it was.

[ghug]

bet he was lurking the whole time

You could have broken the tie in the other direction if you found it so questionable.

Sorry yavuzovic

To answer the question: I had a break between 2 calls, and I knew it was around vote end time and as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

I thought both yavuzovic or Bo were both Town. If ghug had more votes I would have switched to them instead, since I still think ghug & worcej are Mafia with their good-cop / bad-cop thing.

Re tying the vote – I confess that I was fully aware that folks here don't like to see tied votes because they feel it's a waste. I figured out as much during the first day. Since I could not vote for anyone I thought was Mafia, I figured if I tie the vote it will be informative to see in which direction folks will break it. And I reckon it was.

based

[KoalaAttack]

bye

Sorry man. Koala's fault

Koala fucking coming out of nowhere to protect bo

Can Koala lose some town posts now? That was a fucking awful move EoD2

Honestly mate, if you are indeed Mafia you are over-doing it. Just kill me and be done with it.

And if you are Town, it's simply not very smart – it's a silly forum game. What impact do you reckon your posts have on me? "On my side of the net", so to speak? What are you trying to accomplish?

I'm not frustrated or anything. It's more like... have you ever seen a little puppy that runs after a bigger dog going bark bark bark – and the other is kind of like "eye-roll, I'm just gonna completely ignore that kid from now on". That's about the effect you have now achieved. My ears are now closed to anything you say, psychologically. You called it "tunneling" but it's a basic communication skill, or a lack of thereof.

[bozotheclown]

Valid - you get town points from me ghug for moving to ensure the tie was broken.

Please never give anyone town points for that.

YOU TAKE THOSE POINTS AND FUCKING LIKE THEM BOY

I think scum generally prefer a town mis-kill over a tie vote.

[bozotheclown]

bet he was lurking the whole time

You could have broken the tie in the other direction if you found it so questionable.

Sorry yavuzovic

To answer the question: I had a break between 2 calls, and I knew it was around vote end time and as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

I thought both yavuzovic or Bo were both Town. If ghug had more votes I would have switched to them instead, since I still think ghug & worcej are Mafia with their good-cop / bad-cop thing.

Re tying the vote – I confess that I was fully aware that folks here don't like to see tied votes because they feel it's a waste. I figured out as much during the first day. Since I could not vote for anyone I thought was Mafia, I figured if I tie the vote it will be informative to see in which direction folks will break it. And I reckon it was.

What do you think the information shows?

[ghug]

Please never give anyone town points for that.

YOU TAKE THOSE POINTS AND FUCKING LIKE THEM BOY

I think scum generally prefer a town mis-kill over a tie vote.

Eh, I'm definitely not going out of my way to cause one as scum, but I'm generally pretty happy when they happen.

[Chaqa]

Would you believe I forgot EoD while I was getting Chipotle

[ghug]

Would you believe I forgot EoD while I was getting Chipotle

We'd be hard-pressed to doubt that story.

[lfischl]

Would you believe I forgot EoD while I was getting Chipotle

Whats your chipotle order, very important question

[KoalaAttack]

You could have broken the tie in the other direction if you found it so questionable.

Sorry yavuzovic

To answer the question: I had a break between 2 calls, and I knew it was around vote end time and as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

I thought both yavuzovic or Bo were both Town. If ghug had more votes I would have switched to them instead, since I still think ghug & worcej are Mafia with their good-cop / bad-cop thing.

Re tying the vote – I confess that I was fully aware that folks here don't like to see tied votes because they feel it's a waste. I figured out as much during the first day. Since I could not vote for anyone I thought was Mafia, I figured if I tie the vote it will be informative to see in which direction folks will break it. And I reckon it was.

What do you think the information shows?

Well, this is my first time with this kind of analysis, but I'd venture a couple of things.

(1) At the moment of the tie, it was

yavuzovic – damo666, rdrivera2005, lfischl, KoalaAttack
Bo – bozotheclown, yavuzovic(T), ghug, worcej

I obviously think it's funny & ironic that the two I have pegged as a good-cop / bad-cop Mafia pair (ghug & worcej) switch together to yavozovic. Naturally, take that with a grain of salt as I already had worcej, ghug, BunnyGo as my 3 Mafia guesses – and as someone pointed out quite correctly, some level confirmation bias is in play here.

(2) I also tied up the vote pretty late – and before I tied up the vote, it was

Bo – bozotheclown, yavuzovic(T), ghug, worcej
yavuzovic – damo666, rdrivera2005, lfischl

right? Question for the more experienced folks – would it be reasonable to assume at at least a couple Mafia are voting for these front-runners? So in my mind it creates a tad of suspicion around the names on here.

(3) This means yavuzovic's post tiying the alignment of worcej & lfischl together was sincere, and not an intentional Mafia ploy of a useless fake-out against 2 Townies. It is still possible that both worcej & lfischl are Townies, but it's something I'd keep a very close eye on.

[ghug]

Sorry yavuzovic

To answer the question: I had a break between 2 calls, and I knew it was around vote end time and as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

I thought both yavuzovic or Bo were both Town. If ghug had more votes I would have switched to them instead, since I still think ghug & worcej are Mafia with their good-cop / bad-cop thing.

Re tying the vote – I confess that I was fully aware that folks here don't like to see tied votes because they feel it's a waste. I figured out as much during the first day. Since I could not vote for anyone I thought was Mafia, I figured if I tie the vote it will be informative to see in which direction folks will break it. And I reckon it was.

What do you think the information shows?

Well, this is my first time with this kind of analysis, but I'd venture a couple of things.

(1) At the moment of the tie, it was

yavuzovic – damo666, rdrivera2005, lfischl, KoalaAttack
Bo – bozotheclown, yavuzovic(T), ghug, worcej

I obviously think it's funny & ironic that the two I have pegged as a good-cop / bad-cop Mafia pair (ghug & worcej) switch together to yavozovic. Naturally, take that with a grain of salt as I already had worcej, ghug, BunnyGo as my 3 Mafia guesses – and as someone pointed out quite correctly, some level confirmation bias is in play here.

(2) I also tied up the vote pretty late – and before I tied up the vote, it was

Bo – bozotheclown, yavuzovic(T), ghug, worcej
yavuzovic – damo666, rdrivera2005, lfischl

right? Question for the more experienced folks – would it be reasonable to assume at at least a couple Mafia are voting for these front-runners? So in my mind it creates a tad of suspicion around the names on here.

(3) This means yavuzovic's post tiying the alignment of worcej & lfischl together was sincere, and not an intentional Mafia ploy of a useless fake-out against 2 Townies. It is still possible that both worcej & lfischl are Townies, but it's something I'd keep a very close eye on.

I think it's reasonable to assume that there's mafia in the voters, but more because most players are in the voters. If it's town v town, you often see a lot of scum on one-vote vanity wagons because they're avoiding getting their hands dirty. Town v scum it's less clear.

[Chaqa]

Would you believe I forgot EoD while I was getting Chipotle

Whats your chipotle order, very important question

brown rice, black beans, chicken, pico, cheese

[worcej]

bye

Sorry man. Koala's fault

Koala fucking coming out of nowhere to protect bo

Can Koala lose some town posts now? That was a fucking awful move EoD2

Honestly mate, if you are indeed Mafia you are over-doing it. Just kill me and be done with it.

And if you are Town, it's simply not very smart – it's a silly forum game. What impact do you reckon your posts have on me? "On my side of the net", so to speak? What are you trying to accomplish?

I'm not frustrated or anything. It's more like... have you ever seen a little puppy that runs after a bigger dog going bark bark bark – and the other is kind of like "eye-roll, I'm just gonna completely ignore that kid from now on". That's about the effect you have now achieved. My ears are now closed to anything you say, psychologically. You called it "tunneling" but it's a basic communication skill, or a lack of thereof.

I believe little dogs in your example actually go “yip yip yip”.

Ties are bad for town. They do nothing to change the gamestate and forcing one with 3 minutes left into the phase is bad play, regardless if you listen to me or not.

[worcej]

bye

Sorry man. Koala's fault

Koala fucking coming out of nowhere to protect bo

Can Koala lose some town posts now? That was a fucking awful move EoD2

Honestly mate, if you are indeed Mafia you are over-doing it. Just kill me and be done with it.

And if you are Town, it's simply not very smart – it's a silly forum game. What impact do you reckon your posts have on me? "On my side of the net", so to speak? What are you trying to accomplish?

I'm not frustrated or anything. It's more like... have you ever seen a little puppy that runs after a bigger dog going bark bark bark – and the other is kind of like "eye-roll, I'm just gonna completely ignore that kid from now on". That's about the effect you have now achieved. My ears are now closed to anything you say, psychologically. You called it "tunneling" but it's a basic communication skill, or a lack of thereof.

And your ears being closed to me isn’t new and I’ll care more about appeasing you if you actually stick around and play more than a couple games.

But get used to me if you do stay - you’re going to get a lot of my low EQ in some games sometimes.

[ghug]

Would you believe I forgot EoD while I was getting Chipotle

Whats your chipotle order, very important question

brown rice, black beans, chicken, pico, cheese

zzzzzzzźzzzzzz

[worcej]

Would you believe I forgot EoD while I was getting Chipotle

Yes, yes I do believe this all things considered

[ghug]

Sorry man. Koala's fault

Koala fucking coming out of nowhere to protect bo

Can Koala lose some town posts now? That was a fucking awful move EoD2

Honestly mate, if you are indeed Mafia you are over-doing it. Just kill me and be done with it.

And if you are Town, it's simply not very smart – it's a silly forum game. What impact do you reckon your posts have on me? "On my side of the net", so to speak? What are you trying to accomplish?

I'm not frustrated or anything. It's more like... have you ever seen a little puppy that runs after a bigger dog going bark bark bark – and the other is kind of like "eye-roll, I'm just gonna completely ignore that kid from now on". That's about the effect you have now achieved. My ears are now closed to anything you say, psychologically. You called it "tunneling" but it's a basic communication skill, or a lack of thereof.

I believe little dogs in your example actually go “yip yip yip”.

Ties are bad for town. They do nothing to change the gamestate and forcing one with 3 minutes left into the phase is bad play, regardless if you listen to me or not.

Don't listen to him. Maybe do it a little earlier next time, but the instinct that ties force noteworthy behavior is a good one.

[worcej]

Honestly mate, if you are indeed Mafia you are over-doing it. Just kill me and be done with it.

And if you are Town, it's simply not very smart – it's a silly forum game. What impact do you reckon your posts have on me? "On my side of the net", so to speak? What are you trying to accomplish?

I'm not frustrated or anything. It's more like... have you ever seen a little puppy that runs after a bigger dog going bark bark bark – and the other is kind of like "eye-roll, I'm just gonna completely ignore that kid from now on". That's about the effect you have now achieved. My ears are now closed to anything you say, psychologically. You called it "tunneling" but it's a basic communication skill, or a lack of thereof.

I believe little dogs in your example actually go “yip yip yip”.

Ties are bad for town. They do nothing to change the gamestate and forcing one with 3 minutes left into the phase is bad play, regardless if you listen to me or not.

Don't listen to him. Maybe do it a little earlier next time, but the instinct that ties force noteworthy behavior is a good one.

I mean, you’re effectively repeating exactly what I am saying so thanks?

[ghug]

Whats your chipotle order, very important question

brown rice, black beans, chicken, pico, cheese

zzzzzzzźzzzzzz

I'm sorry but I can't let this go. Who the fuck only gets pico?