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Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:05 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:54 pm

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:38 pm

I feel like "Russian or soviet artist who is buried in the West" is like 90% likely to be Jewish...

Want to ask.....

I recommend against it. I think we'd get more use out of asking about when he died or something.

Yes

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:05 pm

Has composed but not known as a composer
Not known for playing a musical instrument
But also known for association with music in some capacity...

Most conductors I've looked at were also composers (often on that list), and conductors are generally too obscure for 20 questions.

Ballet choreographers I've looked at were not composers at all, besides being too obscure for 20 questions.

You might guess something like a technologist working with music in some capacity, but he wasn't a scientist or engineer.

Singers of various sorts come next. You'd exclude anyone acting, which presumably rules out opera, but even if you don't rule out opera, I can't find a candidate that I'd consider notable enough for this.

Interesting that you considered choreograpers but not dancers.

Could be a singer? I'm way out of my wheelhouse.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:15 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:57 am

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:43 am

Was he a painter, author, musician or other non-acting/film artist?

Yes

Yes, I see that. But a strict reading of that question does not actually rule out being an actor in some capacity. It just requires that they also be a painter, author, musician, or some other non-acting artist. E.g., if the person in question were Lady Gaga, the answer would still be yes (musician, non-acting/film artist) despite her "acting" career.

If there's a complaint about me bringing up Yul Brynner, it's more that it's much harder to describe him as having a musical career (other than, you know, literal musicals... but that is acting, I suppose...)

To be clear, I am not complaining and do not consider this to be a problem with the game!

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:29 pm

Could be a singer? I'm way out of my wheelhouse.

I haven't been able to find a notable enough Russian singer outside of opera :\

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:25 pm

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:05 pm

Has composed but not known as a composer
Not known for playing a musical instrument
But also known for association with music in some capacity...

Most conductors I've looked at were also composers (often on that list), and conductors are generally too obscure for 20 questions.

Ballet choreographers I've looked at were not composers at all, besides being too obscure for 20 questions.

You might guess something like a technologist working with music in some capacity, but he wasn't a scientist or engineer.

Singers of various sorts come next. You'd exclude anyone acting, which presumably rules out opera, but even if you don't rule out opera, I can't find a candidate that I'd consider notable enough for this.

Interesting that you considered choreograpers but not dancers.

I have looked at them. If you're looking at dancers from Russia/etc born before 1930, you're looking at ballet, and if there's a segment of the arts more obscure than opera, it's ballet. Nijinski is the only one whose name I even kind of recognize and I don't see anything about him composing.

Did Rasputin ever compose... lol

he's associated through music through songs about him

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died after Jan 1, 1900
5. Not Anglo-Saxon or of an Anglo-Saxon nation
6. Eurasian
7. Not significantly involved in either world war
8. Not East Asian or from a member country of ASEAN
9. Asian, Russian, Soviet, Eastern European, Turkic, Cypriot or Greek
10. Born before Jan 1, 1930
11. Not Levantine (excluding Cyprus), Arabian, Mesopotamian, Iranian, Afghan, South Asian or Himalayan
12. Russian, Soviet, or Eastern European
13. Not a politician, diplomat, religious minister, philosopher, scientist or engineer.
14. Was a painter, author, musician or other non-acting/film artist
15. His mother tongue a Slavic language
16. Has never served in the military.
17. Died in the West (the US-aligned countries)
18. A painter or a musician (including a music composer) [see below]
19. Not on composer list

NOT:
Gandhi
Marc Chagall*
Arthur Rubinstein*
Georgi Markov
Yul Brynner*

* not counted

Free info

Has composed but not known as a composer, not known for playing a musical instrument but strongly associated with music

Not a painter [as far as I can ascertain] but strongly associated with painters and painting.

Not a cosmounaut.

Not Jewish.

Not known for chess.

Did not live entirely within the 20th century.

Has composed but not known as a composer, not known for playing a musical instrument but strongly associated with music

Not a painter [as far as I can ascertain] but strongly associated with painters and painting.

The pretzel gets twistier!

I think I've thought all I'm gonna think about this today, so someone else ask a really good last question.

Based on this clue:

Has composed but not known as a composer, not known for playing a musical instrument but strongly associated with music

Question: Is he known as a vocalist?

A Yugoslav, Bulgarian, Polish, Ukrainian, Belarusian or Russian man who is not a painter but is strongly associated with both painters and painting . . .

A Yugoslav, Bulgarian, Czechoslovak, Polish, Ukrainian, Belarusian or Russian man who is not a painter but is strongly associated with both painters and painting . . .

JECE wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:19 am

A Yugoslav, Bulgarian, Czechoslovak, Polish, Ukrainian, Belarusian or Russian man who is not a painter but is strongly associated with both painters and painting...

And who is strongly associated with music but does not play an instrument.

(Hence my question).

Are there any famous graffiti artists who are dead and were also famous DJ's or something? This is so odd.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:27 am

JECE wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:19 am

A Yugoslav, Bulgarian, Czechoslovak, Polish, Ukrainian, Belarusian or Russian man who is not a painter but is strongly associated with both painters and painting...

And who is strongly associated with music but does not play an instrument.

(Hence my question).

He was actually a musician, apparently! A painter or a musician who was not a painter must therefore have been a musician.

I came across Pavel 183, but way too young, ha ha

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:58 pm

Based on this clue:

Has composed but not known as a composer, not known for playing a musical instrument but strongly associated with music

Question: Is he known as a vocalist?

No

Okay Damo, thanks.....

We're out of questions.

So:

- Strongly associated with music, BUT not a musician (and not known as a composer).

- Strongly associated with painters and painting, BUT not a painter himself.

This is a riddle.

What sort of person would this describe (noting all the other information too)?

I'm totally stuck.

Final clue

His Wikipedia page mentions someone mentioned in this thread