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Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:34 pm
by JECE
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:33 pm
JECE wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:03 pm
I also think that the proposed 24-hour time limit is too short.
We got a pretty huge hint with the Wikipedia pages. This is definitely solvable.
More than 1,700 pages link to Marc Chagall. So multiply that by however many people have been mentioned in the thread who have wikipedia pages, and that'll give you an idea of how many you have to sort through to brute force this.
It should either be a hard time limit or a limited number of guesses. But it's already been open season for 8+ hours and nobody has put forth a guess, so I don't understand why we're asking for more time when we're not using the extra that has already been given.
More like 1,200 to 1,300 articles, but yeah, point taken . . .
Still, there must be a way. Many of those articles aren't about people, and perhaps the other people mentioned in the thread might not have quite so many links from other pages.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:36 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Ok cool thanks Damo.
I will let someone else take the bonus extra last question, although I'd be happy to brainstorm what a good question might be. Suggestions including:
"Is it a wealthy patron of the arts?"
"Did he leave Russia or the USSR before Stalin came to power?"
"Was he ever on the cover of TIME Magazine?"
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:39 pm
by damo666
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:33 pm
JECE wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:03 pm
I also think that the proposed 24-hour time limit is too short.
We got a pretty huge hint with the Wikipedia pages. This is definitely solvable.
More than
1,700 pages link to Marc Chagall. So multiply that by however many people have been mentioned in the thread who have wikipedia pages, and that'll give you an idea of how many you have to sort through to brute force this.
It should either be a hard time limit or a limited number of guesses. But it's already been open season for 8+ hours and nobody has put forth a guess, so I don't understand why we're asking for more time when we're not using the extra that has already been given.
Not 1700
people though
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:49 pm
by Foxcastle
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:39 pm
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:33 pm
JECE wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:03 pm
I also think that the proposed 24-hour time limit is too short.
We got a pretty huge hint with the Wikipedia pages. This is definitely solvable.
More than
1,700 pages link to Marc Chagall. So multiply that by however many people have been mentioned in the thread who have wikipedia pages, and that'll give you an idea of how many you have to sort through to brute force this.
It should either be a hard time limit or a limited number of guesses. But it's already been open season for 8+ hours and nobody has put forth a guess, so I don't understand why we're asking for more time when we're not using the extra that has already been given.
Not 1700
people though
1,700 items that one would have to sort through to check for men before you also check if they're notable (hoping that you've heard of them or recognize them).
But also, this is just brute forcing and I think that's against the spirit of the game, which may not stop others from trying to do it, but I'm not going to bother.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:56 pm
by JECE
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:16 pm
by damo666
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:49 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:39 pm
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:33 pm
More than
1,700 pages link to Marc Chagall. So multiply that by however many people have been mentioned in the thread who have wikipedia pages, and that'll give you an idea of how many you have to sort through to brute force this.
It should either be a hard time limit or a limited number of guesses. But it's already been open season for 8+ hours and nobody has put forth a guess, so I don't understand why we're asking for more time when we're not using the extra that has already been given.
Not 1700
people though
1,700 items that one would have to sort through to check for men before you also check if they're notable (hoping that you've heard of them or recognize them).
But also, this is just brute forcing and I think that's against the spirit of the game, which may not stop others from trying to do it, but I'm not going to bother.
Nor would I!
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:20 pm
by JECE
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:49 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:39 pm
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:33 pm
More than
1,700 pages link to Marc Chagall. So multiply that by however many people have been mentioned in the thread who have wikipedia pages, and that'll give you an idea of how many you have to sort through to brute force this.
It should either be a hard time limit or a limited number of guesses. But it's already been open season for 8+ hours and nobody has put forth a guess, so I don't understand why we're asking for more time when we're not using the extra that has already been given.
Not 1700
people though
1,700 items that one would have to sort through to check for men before you also check if they're notable (hoping that you've heard of them or recognize them).
But also, this is just brute forcing and I think that's against the spirit of the game, which may not stop others from trying to do it, but I'm not going to bother.
The Spirit of Twenty Questions, by Fox Castle (2023)
I'm looking forward to reading the book when it's published!
But seriously, it's at least 500 less than 1,700 to sort through. There may be other ways to automatically sift through the 1,200 or so remaining pages.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:24 pm
by Foxcastle
I'm just using the Marc Chagall page as a reference, I haven't looked at any others.
Good luck with your project!
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:34 am
by Kakarroto
Maybe we want to use the question to get a better idea when that person went out from 'the east' to 'the west'? It might be he fled before the revolution.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 3:21 am
by VillageIdiot
I don't know this guy, but I'll go with with Serge Diaghilev since he seems to tick all the boxes.
- Connected to music as founder of ballet company
- Connected to painting as an art critic and patron
- Composed as a teenager but not a composer,
- Born in Russia in 1872 and died in Paris in 1929
- Wikipedia page mentions having dated Vaslav Nijinsky, who Foxcastle previously mentioned in the thread
Gotta be, right?
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 3:43 am
by Saw725
VillageIdiot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 3:21 am
I don't know this guy, but I'll go with with
Serge Diaghilev since he seems to tick all the boxes.
- Connected to music as founder of ballet company
- Connected to painting as an art critic and patron
- Composed as a teenager but not a composer,
- Born in Russia in 1872 and died in Paris in 1929
- Wikipedia page mentions having dated Vaslav Nijinsky, who Foxcastle previously mentioned in the thread
Gotta be, right?
Even if it's not Serge Diaghilev, I think that searching for someone with connections to Nijinsky is our best bet here.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:01 am
by supi13
VillageIdiot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 3:21 am
I don't know this guy, but I'll go with with
Serge Diaghilev since he seems to tick all the boxes.
- Connected to music as founder of ballet company
- Connected to painting as an art critic and patron
- Composed as a teenager but not a composer,
- Born in Russia in 1872 and died in Paris in 1929
- Wikipedia page mentions having dated Vaslav Nijinsky, who Foxcastle previously mentioned in the thread
Gotta be, right?
If we upvote this answer enough, damo will have to accept it!
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:48 am
by damo666
VillageIdiot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 3:21 am
I don't know this guy, but I'll go with with
Serge Diaghilev since he seems to tick all the boxes.
- Connected to music as founder of ballet company
- Connected to painting as an art critic and patron
- Composed as a teenager but not a composer,
- Born in Russia in 1872 and died in Paris in 1929
- Wikipedia page mentions having dated Vaslav Nijinsky, who Foxcastle previously mentioned in the thread
Gotta be, right?
Yep, Sergei (with an I) Diaghilev. Well done plworth reading th wiki article. The painter/musician question was interesting
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:49 am
by damo666
Phone!
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:51 am
by damo666
VillageIdiot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 3:21 am
I don't know this guy, but I'll go with with
Serge Diaghilev since he seems to tick all the boxes.
- Connected to music as founder of ballet company
- Connected to painting as an art critic and patron
- Composed as a teenager but not a composer,
- Born in Russia in 1872 and died in Paris in 1929
- Wikipedia page mentions having dated Vaslav Nijinsky, who Foxcastle previously mentioned in the thread
Gotta be, right?
Died in Venice btw, not Paris.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:04 pm
by Jamiet99uk
That was a tough one, Damo.
Well done, team.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:59 pm
by JECE
Ugh, of course. An an art critic would not be a painter but still strongly associated with painters and painting.
Anyway, never heard of this guy!
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:48 pm
by VillageIdiot
Whew. I was so close to dismissing the guy because I couldn’t find any reference to anybody previously discussed since I completely missed the Nijinsky name drop. Seemed such a match though I ended up going through this thread I think 5 times to see what I missed.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:16 pm
by damo666
VillageIdiot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:48 pm
Whew. I was so close to dismissing the guy because I couldn’t find any reference to anybody previously discussed since I completely missed the Nijinsky name drop. Seemed such a match though I ended up going through this thread I think 5 times to see what I missed.
Well done. Your turn.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:06 pm
by VillageIdiot
I'll have something up by tonight.