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Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:22 pm
by lfischl
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:21 pm
Everyone except damo ended on a confirmed town wagon D2 (from my perspective).

Everyone except damo, Chaqa, and lfischl ended on a confirmed town wagon D1.

If Chaqa and damo are town, then every player still in the game ended on a town wagon D1.

In other words, if there has been any bussing, Chaqa and damo or Chaqa and lfischl are mafia.
? I ended on bunny D1

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:25 pm
by lfischl
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:22 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:21 pm
Everyone except damo ended on a confirmed town wagon D2 (from my perspective).

Everyone except damo, Chaqa, and lfischl ended on a confirmed town wagon D1.

If Chaqa and damo are town, then every player still in the game ended on a town wagon D1.

In other words, if there has been any bussing, Chaqa and damo or Chaqa and lfischl are mafia.
? I ended on bunny D1
My vote was like 2 seconds before the deadline so I don't think the bot registered it

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:37 pm
by bozotheclown
D1 EOD, lfischl voted for Chaqa when the vote was tied at 3 to put Chaqa in the lead. Then, damo voted for Chaqa when he likely thought the vote was tied at 3 and would put Chaqa in the lead, as his vote came shortly after celaph's vote. If either were bussing Chaqa, they waited until they would maximize their bussing credit.

Maybe they took Chaqa's first post as a signal to bus him:
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:01 am
So uh I forgot this game was a thing, just logged in and also I guess I need to set up the bot in the morning, but I'm going to bed and also feel free to day 1 me
That was also the post that made me vote for Chaqa D1, as it seemed unlikely Chaqa forgot about the existence of this game considering he confirmed participation after the game filled and not long before it started. Also, I thought the D1 thing was a potential scum ploy, although I did not consider at the time that it could be a signal to bus him.

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:40 pm
by bozotheclown
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:25 pm
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:22 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:21 pm
Everyone except damo ended on a confirmed town wagon D2 (from my perspective).

Everyone except damo, Chaqa, and lfischl ended on a confirmed town wagon D1.

If Chaqa and damo are town, then every player still in the game ended on a town wagon D1.

In other words, if there has been any bussing, Chaqa and damo or Chaqa and lfischl are mafia.
? I ended on bunny D1
My vote was like 2 seconds before the deadline so I don't think the bot registered it
Sorry, I was looking at the bot at the time I wrote that, although you came within 4 seconds of ending on Chaqa.

Why did you vote for Chaqa when you moved off of bo_sox?

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:49 pm
by bozotheclown
A Chaqa, damo, lfischl scum team is not unreasonable, with Chaqa's unexplained D1 damo vote, Chaqa's unexplained lfischl town read, and damo's suggestion of a Chaqa information DK with little effort to make it happen.

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:52 pm
by lfischl
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:40 pm
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:25 pm
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:22 pm


? I ended on bunny D1
My vote was like 2 seconds before the deadline so I don't think the bot registered it
Sorry, I was looking at the bot at the time I wrote that, although you came within 4 seconds of ending on Chaqa.

Why did you vote for Chaqa when you moved off of bo_sox?
I forget now but most likely was just a gut feeling, still don't like that he just townread me without saying anything about it though

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:57 pm
by bozotheclown
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:52 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:40 pm
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:25 pm


My vote was like 2 seconds before the deadline so I don't think the bot registered it
Sorry, I was looking at the bot at the time I wrote that, although you came within 4 seconds of ending on Chaqa.

Why did you vote for Chaqa when you moved off of bo_sox?
I forget now but most likely was just a gut feeling, still don't like that he just townread me without saying anything about it though
Why did you switch your vote at the deadline?

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:05 pm
by bozotheclown
Chaqa starting my wagon D2 and then leaving it when I was in the lead seems like a typical scum motivated move, giving him options at EOD. His move back to my wagon at EOD with celaph off wagon seems questionable as well.

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:08 pm
by lfischl
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:57 pm
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:52 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:40 pm


Sorry, I was looking at the bot at the time I wrote that, although you came within 4 seconds of ending on Chaqa.

Why did you vote for Chaqa when you moved off of bo_sox?
I forget now but most likely was just a gut feeling, still don't like that he just townread me without saying anything about it though
Why did you switch your vote at the deadline?
Didn't want it to tie? I haven't been in that situation in a while but a D1 tie usually isn't great for town

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm
by Bonatogether
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:32 pm
@Bona: You had been voting and sussing Bozo all game basically. Why did you vote with him against celaph?
idr my read on him d1 but i don't think it was a scumread

i kind of sussed him d2 but the day kind of drew out that nothing useful was happening and i wasn't feeling voting him. idk why he voted with me, ask him

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:10 pm
by Bonatogether
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:30 pm
Anyway, imo flip Chaqa and we solve fishy.
town chaqa = ?
scum chaqa = ?

don't follow

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pm
by damo666
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:49 pm
A Chaqa, damo, lfischl scum team is not unreasonable, with Chaqa's unexplained D1 damo vote, Chaqa's unexplained lfischl town read, and damo's suggestion of a Chaqa information DK with little effort to make it happen.
You really think that I as third man would urge an info flip on Chaqa with the reasoning he is co-aligned with lfischl? Come on!

I still maintain Chaqa is the best flip tomorrow (and if he slips scum Bozo is quasi clear).

This should be D3 D4 D5 strategy

D3 kill Chaqa, if scum kill lfischl D4, if town kill Bozo D4. If D4 does not result is a scum flip kill me D5 (if I'm here).

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pm
by damo666
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:10 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:30 pm
Anyway, imo flip Chaqa and we solve fishy.
town chaqa = ?
scum chaqa = ?

don't follow
Answered I believe.

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:14 pm
by worcej
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:31 pm
Rivera has also basically been under the radar all game.
True - has he done anything worth commenting on?

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:18 pm
by damo666
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:55 pm
damo would have to be mafia for the scum to be on 3 different wagons D2.

It seems more likely the mafia distributed their votes D1.

Possible combinations for the mafia to be on 3 different wagons D1:
Bonatogether, damo, Kakarroto
Bonatogether, damo, heartthrob
Bonatogether, damo, Chaqa
Bonatogether, damo, rdrivera
Bonatogether, Kakarroto, Chaqa
Bonatogether, Kakarroto, rdrivera
Bonatogether, heartthrob, Chaqa
Bonatogether, heartthrob, rdrivera
Bonatogether, Chaqa, rdrivera
lfischl, damo, Kakarroto
lfischl, damo, heartthrob
lfischl, damo, Chaqa
lfischl, damo, rdrivera
lfischl, Kakarroto, Chaqa
lfischl, Kakarroto, rdrivera
lfischl, heartthrob, Chaqa
lfischl, heartthrob, rdrivera
lfischl, Chaqa, rdrivera
damo, Kakarroto, Chaqa
damo, Kakarroto, rdrivera
damo, heartthrob, Chaqa
damo, heartthrob, rdrivera
damo, Chaqa, rdrivera
Kakarroto, Chaqa, rdrivera
heartthrob, Chaqa, rdrivera
Plus the 9 including Bozo of course.

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:19 pm
by damo666
worcej wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:14 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:31 pm
Rivera has also basically been under the radar all game.
True - has he done anything worth commenting on?
Did his trad vanilla claim

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:31 pm
by bozotheclown
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:18 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:55 pm
damo would have to be mafia for the scum to be on 3 different wagons D2.

It seems more likely the mafia distributed their votes D1.

Possible combinations for the mafia to be on 3 different wagons D1:
Bonatogether, damo, Kakarroto
Bonatogether, damo, heartthrob
Bonatogether, damo, Chaqa
Bonatogether, damo, rdrivera
Bonatogether, Kakarroto, Chaqa
Bonatogether, Kakarroto, rdrivera
Bonatogether, heartthrob, Chaqa
Bonatogether, heartthrob, rdrivera
Bonatogether, Chaqa, rdrivera
lfischl, damo, Kakarroto
lfischl, damo, heartthrob
lfischl, damo, Chaqa
lfischl, damo, rdrivera
lfischl, Kakarroto, Chaqa
lfischl, Kakarroto, rdrivera
lfischl, heartthrob, Chaqa
lfischl, heartthrob, rdrivera
lfischl, Chaqa, rdrivera
damo, Kakarroto, Chaqa
damo, Kakarroto, rdrivera
damo, heartthrob, Chaqa
damo, heartthrob, rdrivera
damo, Chaqa, rdrivera
Kakarroto, Chaqa, rdrivera
heartthrob, Chaqa, rdrivera
Plus the 9 including Bozo of course.
I can guarantee that I am not part of any possible mafia combinations.

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:33 pm
by worcej
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:31 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:18 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:55 pm
damo would have to be mafia for the scum to be on 3 different wagons D2.

It seems more likely the mafia distributed their votes D1.

Possible combinations for the mafia to be on 3 different wagons D1:
Bonatogether, damo, Kakarroto
Bonatogether, damo, heartthrob
Bonatogether, damo, Chaqa
Bonatogether, damo, rdrivera
Bonatogether, Kakarroto, Chaqa
Bonatogether, Kakarroto, rdrivera
Bonatogether, heartthrob, Chaqa
Bonatogether, heartthrob, rdrivera
Bonatogether, Chaqa, rdrivera
lfischl, damo, Kakarroto
lfischl, damo, heartthrob
lfischl, damo, Chaqa
lfischl, damo, rdrivera
lfischl, Kakarroto, Chaqa
lfischl, Kakarroto, rdrivera
lfischl, heartthrob, Chaqa
lfischl, heartthrob, rdrivera
lfischl, Chaqa, rdrivera
damo, Kakarroto, Chaqa
damo, Kakarroto, rdrivera
damo, heartthrob, Chaqa
damo, heartthrob, rdrivera
damo, Chaqa, rdrivera
Kakarroto, Chaqa, rdrivera
heartthrob, Chaqa, rdrivera
Plus the 9 including Bozo of course.
I can guarantee that I am not part of any possible mafia combinations.
One problem is the lack of including myself and bo, but we really are immune to your pair analysis because our votes were not there.

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:35 pm
by bozotheclown
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:49 pm
A Chaqa, damo, lfischl scum team is not unreasonable, with Chaqa's unexplained D1 damo vote, Chaqa's unexplained lfischl town read, and damo's suggestion of a Chaqa information DK with little effort to make it happen.
You really think that I as third man would urge an info flip on Chaqa with the reasoning he is co-aligned with lfischl? Come on!

I still maintain Chaqa is the best flip tomorrow (and if he slips scum Bozo is quasi clear).

This should be D3 D4 D5 strategy

D3 kill Chaqa, if scum kill lfischl D4, if town kill Bozo D4. If D4 does not result is a scum flip kill me D5 (if I'm here).
That would be a winning mafia strategy if Chaqa is town.

Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:37 pm
by bozotheclown
worcej wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:33 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:31 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:18 pm


Plus the 9 including Bozo of course.
I can guarantee that I am not part of any possible mafia combinations.
One problem is the lack of including myself and bo, but we really are immune to your pair analysis because our votes were not there.
True, I probably should have considered "no vote" as a different wagon.