M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[bo_sox48]

On the topic of heart, he answered Bozo's petting question with inherent trust that Bozo had a decent reason for asking and that he could safely answer and figure out the reason later. That feels way more newb town than newb scum to me.

Secondly,

1. if hes active maybe thats why? and he got some votes D1 so scum could be trying to stir confusion by eliminating him... still figuring out the ins and outs of

It's certainly possible that Heart's a great actor and playing up how little he knows. But if he's mafia, then presumably he just spent 24 hours in a discord with two other players explaining their reasoning on who to kill. I do not believe that anyone spends time seriously contemplating their best kill and decides its ghug because he got votes.

Heart is town.

agree with this reasoning

Same, but I’m not a fan of completely letting someone off the hook early on for it. Can’t learn the game that way.

[worcej]

fwiw i nailed celaph as scum a while back for not having reads and he said in a god thread pm that would be relatively easy to improve on so

celaph having reads === scummy????

For someone who usually doesn’t WIFOM, this reads weird to me.

[bo_sox48]

Alright sheeple, I want to hear some thoughts from you:

-) why do you think ghug was targeted? Did you notice anything in particular?

-) who do you think would target ghug N1? There should be better targets around, right?

-) why didn't we have a survey yet? Would there be even a survey that's useful for town?

I'm sure there are more questions that would be great to be answered but right now I can't think of good ones to ask. Everyone feel free to answer them, but I definitely want and need them answered by bo and chaqa and I firmly suggest that worcej and bozo also answer them.

Since you asked:
1. probably because scum thought he was a PR for some reason? Truthfully this is probably a rare occurrence for ghug as he normally dies much later in games. However, I did not see anything that would lead me to think he suggested or hinted anything that would make him a PR.

2. Quick list: Bona/Damo/Kak are the three players I could see being willing to kill ghug ASAP if any of you got some sort of PR Vibe from him.

3. Because bozo hasn’t made one? Kind of a small game to force the issue for one, but that’s my thought at least.

This just feels contrived to me

[worcej]

I think we should put some pressure on the mafia and have everyone state who they dog-checked N1, obviously without giving the result.

I checked ghug N1.

lmao there it is. Town Bozo would have done it preemptively.

FWIW I checked bozo and I do not feel concerned voting for him.

TBF, I think you’re right on the poll/question being a factor of town!bozo, but where I am unsure is why you would think he would do it before the phase…

[worcej]

Alright sheeple, I want to hear some thoughts from you:

-) why do you think ghug was targeted? Did you notice anything in particular?

-) who do you think would target ghug N1? There should be better targets around, right?

-) why didn't we have a survey yet? Would there be even a survey that's useful for town?

I'm sure there are more questions that would be great to be answered but right now I can't think of good ones to ask. Everyone feel free to answer them, but I definitely want and need them answered by bo and chaqa and I firmly suggest that worcej and bozo also answer them.

Since you asked:
1. probably because scum thought he was a PR for some reason? Truthfully this is probably a rare occurrence for ghug as he normally dies much later in games. However, I did not see anything that would lead me to think he suggested or hinted anything that would make him a PR.

2. Quick list: Bona/Damo/Kak are the three players I could see being willing to kill ghug ASAP if any of you got some sort of PR Vibe from him.

3. Because bozo hasn’t made one? Kind of a small game to force the issue for one, but that’s my thought at least.

This just feels contrived to me

I mean, it’s my opinion so of course I created it?

Don’t understand what isnt natural about my thoughts and conclusions here.

[bo_sox48]

It’s just the vibes man

[bo_sox48]

I think we should put some pressure on the mafia and have everyone state who they dog-checked N1, obviously without giving the result.

I checked ghug N1.

lmao there it is. Town Bozo would have done it preemptively.

FWIW I checked bozo and I do not feel concerned voting for him.

TBF, I think you’re right on the poll/question being a factor of town!bozo, but where I am unsure is why you would think he would do it before the phase…

At this point there’s a real chance that bozo would force some dumb survey just to look like “normal” bozo if he were scum. Unless I’m misunderstanding the context here that seems NAI at best

[worcej]

N1 dog checks:

bozo: ghug
Chaqa: bozo
Bonatogether: no check
heartthrob: damo
lfischl: Kakarroto

I checked Chaqa

[worcej]

It’s just the vibes man

Admin powers strike again.

[worcej]

I ran some mafia AI I found online and it said the scum team is Bonatogether, celaph, and Kakarroto.

Did you contact the AI in your head?

[worcej]

I should be town clear because I would never give ghug the satisfaction of N1ing him

lol

[Bonatogether]

Why not?

i decided i didn't need to know who the pr is or isn't

Chad move.

[Bonatogether]

fwiw i nailed celaph as scum a while back for not having reads and he said in a god thread pm that would be relatively easy to improve on so

celaph having reads === scummy????

For someone who usually doesn’t WIFOM, this reads weird to me.

it's not wifom, but a point of consideration when regarding celaph

[Bonatogether]

is eod today or tomorrow

[bo_sox48]

Tomorrow

[worcej]

Breaking ties as scum and hoping someone is as dumb as Chaqa and says “hurr durr you broke a tie you’re obvtown” is a true pro strat, an old favorite of mine. Sometimes I even do it as town just to have that point on my side for a couple days before everyone forgets

Sound logic of a jaded mafia player who knows who he plays with.

[worcej]

This is the sort of game where I'm going to strongly oppose killing anyone who's actually talking for the first couple days. Liking not hearing from bo, though.

Why do you not like hearing from bo?

I was in an earthquake once while I was working in Alaska. Ghug had never experienced an earthquake, and he was asking me about it. He told me he really wanted to be in one - not a humongous one, but one that knocked some shit off the walls and made a little bit of commotion, and ultimately left no one hurt. When I told him that the earthquake I had recently been through was a low end 7 on the Richter scale and described the rocking motion from it and the aftershocks he said to me, and I quote, “dang, that sounds like a cool experience. I really would love to be in one like that sometime.” So I told him he should just ask his mom to do a couple jumping jacks and he’ll get the idea.

He hasn’t gotten along well with me since. Not really sure why.

This is an impressive improvisation here.

[worcej]

I like what celaph is saying - add him to my town list.

[lfischl]

For the people voting Bo, why not Chaqa? Chaqa has sent more messages and his only pro-town action is restarting the bot.

Also, what are people's thoughts on Bunny?

I would support a chaqa wagon, I just want to see bo actually send some messages first

Why would you support a Chaqa wagon?

Also, is this message abobe the message that you were referring to here:

I forget where the post is but Chaqa is probably the person I have the worst feeling about, Bona is probably town but my gut wants me to say he's scum

Does chaqa have a history of just buddying people?

[worcej]

I would support a chaqa wagon, I just want to see bo actually send some messages first

Why would you support a Chaqa wagon?

Also, is this message abobe the message that you were referring to here:

I forget where the post is but Chaqa is probably the person I have the worst feeling about, Bona is probably town but my gut wants me to say he's scum

Does chaqa have a history of just buddying people?

He’s done it in the past as scum, but chaqa is not someone who is consistent with his game.