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Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:10 am
by Kakarroto
JECE wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:45 pm
Kakarroto! Poor guy! Sorry that you did all that research. I was referring to damo666 and his love affair with real dead males, not battles in 1666.
(.-.)


Also, I think I never heard of or read about Mr. Blas. The german wikipedia page about him isn't too short though, especially the history of his wounds seems more detailed documented than most other people.

I would however bet that not more than one in one-hundred-thousand people here would know who this person was. Pretty sure that's because of locality and curriculum, but still, I think I personally would've never gotten it with 20 questions alone.

Also, for everyone who's interested, in the german wiki page his death cause is described as 'he got sick with the plague shortly after the fights (in Cartagena) and died on the 7th of September'.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:31 am
by VillageIdiot
Was meant as my guess, but I’m happy to defer to Bonatogether to host the next game.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:53 am
by VillageIdiot
My research was that he died from an infection caused by wounds, albeit months later, but I didn't see much debate or 'controversy'. I see now you never actually used that term and it got rephrased into 'cause of death controversial' in the summary which turned into quite the red herring.

I came to believe it could be him because I uncovered Santiago Abascal of the Vox party in Spain (super right wing) made some off the cuff comments about wanting to make a film about Blas de Lezo, and may want Mel Gibson to direct. Had to go full on Google translate from a Spanish article to track that down that nugget.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:14 am
by Jamiet99uk
Sorry, just to be clear, the answer was:

Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta

Yes?

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:16 am
by Jamiet99uk
Who the FUCK is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta??

He does not even have a Wikipedia page in English.

HOW did you expect us to guess this random, obscure, person?

This fails the dart test by about 1,000 miles.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:18 am
by Bonatogether
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:16 am
Who the FUCK is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta??

He does not even have a Wikipedia page in English.

HOW did you expect us to guess this random, obscure, person?

This fails the dart test by about 1,000 miles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blas_de_Lezo

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:21 am
by Jamiet99uk
Sorry but I don't think this is fair at all.

This person is not famous or well-known.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:22 am
by Jamiet99uk
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:18 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:16 am
Who the FUCK is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta??

He does not even have a Wikipedia page in English.

HOW did you expect us to guess this random, obscure, person?

This fails the dart test by about 1,000 miles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blas_de_Lezo
Absolute fucking bollocks.

JECE needs to explain how this person is famous.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:23 am
by Bonatogether
i recognize the name but only because i got halfway through a book about the war of jenkin's ear recently

agree that this is not a well known person

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:24 am
by Jamiet99uk
No offence JECE but this game collapses into shit, if you just name random very minor figures that nobody has ever heard of. That's not fair.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:30 am
by Kakarroto
As repentance, I suggest that JECE signs on for the next Mafia game :-P

and we go on with the next game. Fair?

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:47 am
by Bonatogether
Kakarroto wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:30 am
As repentance, I suggest that JECE signs on for the next Mafia game :-P

and we go on with the next game. Fair?
i support this

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:50 am
by Jamiet99uk
In 1980, UNESCO declared Fort San Lorenzo, together with the fortified town of Portobelo about 30 miles (48 km) to the northeast, to be a World Heritage Site.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:36 am
by Bonatogether
VillageIdiot wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:31 am
Was meant as my guess, but I’m happy to defer to Bonatogether to host the next game.
merci, i'll get that up and going

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:45 am
by JECE
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:22 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:18 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:16 am
Who the FUCK is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta??

He does not even have a Wikipedia page in English.

HOW did you expect us to guess this random, obscure, person?

This fails the dart test by about 1,000 miles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blas_de_Lezo
Absolute fucking bollocks.

JECE needs to explain how this person is famous.
I already did:
JECE wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:32 pm
Blas de Lezo died not long after the Battle of Cartagena de Indias, in which he repelled one of the largest amphibious invasions in history with a small force.
But I understand, of course. British people are very sensitive when it comes to remembering national humiliations. ;-)

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:48 am
by JECE
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:47 am
Kakarroto wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:30 am
As repentance, I suggest that JECE signs on for the next Mafia game :-P

and we go on with the next game. Fair?
i support this
You know, I've been seeing those threads for ages and I've never bothered to learn what the game is about.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:30 am
by Octavious
Ah, so he was a kind of Spanish Nelson who made his name in some Imperial squabble in the Americas where a bunch of Brits turned up, got sick, and left?

Not the most well known of historical figures, but he does seem to definitely qualify. The game needs a few trickier ones.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:39 am
by Szpoti
JECE wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:45 am

But I understand, of course. British people are very sensitive when it comes to remembering national humiliations. ;-)
I should be pursuing a PhD in Iberian studies to even begin comprehending why, as a British person, I should feel national humiliation. On top of that, the event took place before 1707.
@JECE, how did you come to know this person? Every one of us can come up with a historical figure drawn from the abyss of any obscure historical event.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:33 pm
by JECE
Szpoti wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:39 am
JECE wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:45 am

But I understand, of course. British people are very sensitive when it comes to remembering national humiliations. ;-)
I should be pursuing a PhD in Iberian studies to even begin comprehending why, as a British person, I should feel national humiliation. On top of that, the event took place before 1707.
@JECE, how did you come to know this person? Every one of us can come up with a historical figure drawn from the abyss of any obscure historical event.
I said the above in jest, but there is something to be said for how British historians skip over the Battle of Cartagena de Indias. News of the defeat was supposedly suppressed in London, but it nevertheless caused the British government to collapse after what was "one [of] the most exciting and memorable [parliament debates] ever heard" as of 1907.

The event, for the record, took place in 1741, well after 1707.

He is famous in his own right, mind you. Not many 18th Century military commanders regularly get articles written about them today in the popular press. The main issue was that you all focused on the 17th Century.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:05 pm
by Bonatogether
JECE wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:48 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:47 am
Kakarroto wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:30 am
As repentance, I suggest that JECE signs on for the next Mafia game :-P

and we go on with the next game. Fair?
i support this
You know, I've been seeing those threads for ages and I've never bothered to learn what the game is about.
it's about your teammates using maximum brainpower for minimum purpose, while you singlehandedly solve the game