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Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:05 pm
by Chaqa
I think we should assume a norm of smaller games going forward.
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:14 pm
by damo666
Chaqa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:05 pm
I think we should assume a norm of smaller games going forward.
Agree
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:06 pm
by Jamiet99uk
I think that most other sites where Mafia is played would regard 17 players as a very large setup. I think Mafiascum defines "large game" as anything with 14+ players.
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:36 pm
by Princess Neon
I'm the smart person who's designing a 20 player game right now that's never gonna fill lol
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:12 pm
by Kakarroto
BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:07 am
Hi answering stuff.
Normal night rules.
Order for actions is jail keep is first then either poison or vig happen simultaneously so if town vigs Poisoner the poison still happens.
Thank you for answering, I post my previous post to clarify:
1) for the order of the night actions, are the "remove from game"(renamed to not say the k-word) different options [like vigilante, poisoner, faction-action] all at the same time or are they in a special order (like poison, then vigilante, then mafia faction-action)? In case two remove actions target the respective initiator.
2) is the wording 'poisoner' relevant for game actions (like the target gets removed later after a certain time) or is it just flavour and works like a vigilante would?
3) if one of the vigilante is targeted by the jailkeeper when they had an action at that night (like N2-Vigilante gets jailed on N2), does that vigilante lose their shot or do they get that action on the next night?
1) so the order is "jail -> all [remove] actions simultaniously", right?
or is the mafia faction [remove] action later?
2) from the same answer I deduct it is just a flavour and it's the same as a town vig shot just for mafia, thanks (please correct if I understood correctly, otherwise I see it as official)
3) this is still unclear, please also answer this
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:14 pm
by Kakarroto
Princess Neon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:36 pm
I'm the smart person who's designing a 20 player game right now that's never gonna fill lol
I have a 4 faction 20+ player all pr's (with a role or two I haven't ever seen on forum mafia but I haven't dived into that subject too much so those might exist already) in mind, but I'm not sure it would ever get the approval of the kouncil since it would be pretty chaotic
though chaos is fun somtimes ...
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:42 am
by lfischl
Kakarroto wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:14 pm
Princess Neon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:36 pm
I'm the smart person who's designing a 20 player game right now that's never gonna fill lol
I have a 4 faction 20+ player all pr's (with a role or two I haven't ever seen on forum mafia but I haven't dived into that subject too much so those might exist already) in mind, but I'm not sure it would ever get the approval of the kouncil since it would be pretty chaotic
though chaos is fun somtimes ...
I forget who hosted it but I remember one where you got 2 role choices, and I'd love to play that again
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:19 am
by Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:12 pm
3) if one of the vigilante is targeted by the jailkeeper when they had an action at that night (like N2-Vigilante gets jailed on N2), does that vigilante lose their shot or do they get that action on the next night?
3) this is still unclear, please also answer this
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Actions which are blocked are not expended. This is a standard interpretation and should not need clarifying.
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:58 pm
by Jamiet99uk
President Eden says I'm allowed to be on this list:
1) BunnyGo
2) pyxxy
3) ghug
4) Neon
5) luvs2spooge
6) damo666
7) rdrivera2005
8) bonatogether
9) bozo
10) lfischl
11) Kakarroto
12) foodcoats
13) worcej
14) Jamiet99uk
15)
16)
17)
3 more needed. Let's get this one started before Eden's mini, just for gits and shiggles.
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:21 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Buuuuuump
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:25 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:12 pm
2) from the same answer I deduct it is just a flavour and it's the same as a town vig shot just for mafia, thanks (please correct if I understood correctly, otherwise I see it as official)
##CALL GM: Please clarify this - is it the normal kind of "Poisoner", whereby the target does
not die instantly (as with a Vig shot) but dies
during the following day phase?
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:52 pm
by Jamiet99uk
I assume they're standard poisoners and not just re-named Vigs.
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:25 pm
by bo_sox48
If this actually gets to 16 players I’ll play, so consider me #17
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:26 pm
by Chaqa
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:25 pm
If this actually gets to 16 players I’ll play, so consider me #17
I'm player 16 if it gets to 15.
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:49 pm
by Chaqa
We need the mini to run first to get Jamie unbanned though.
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:51 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:49 pm
We need the mini to *start* first to get Jamie unbanned though.
Ahem
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pm
by Chaqa
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:51 pm
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:49 pm
We need the mini to *start* first to get Jamie unbanned though.
Ahem
Well, if this starts first, you get to play in the mini at least.
Schrodinger's Jamie
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:44 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:51 pm
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:49 pm
We need the mini to *start* first to get Jamie unbanned though.
Ahem
Well, if this starts first, you get to play in the mini at least.
Schrodinger's Jamie
What if this game starts first but the mini also fills up at almost the same time?
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:24 am
by BunnyGo
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:49 pm
We need the mini to run first to get Jamie unbanned though.
I can only play one simultaneously, so whichever starts first is the one I'm in. So I guess Jamie and I only count as 1 slot together.
Re: M77: Poisoner 17er
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:52 am
by damo666
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:24 am
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:49 pm
We need the mini to run first to get Jamie unbanned though.
I can only play one simultaneously, so whichever starts first is the one I'm in. So I guess Jamie and I only count as 1 slot together.
I suggest the latter to fill doesn't start until the first to start finishes.