Re: M76 - Dungeons and Dragons - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:59 pm
so pyx, i guess i have to ask now: why did you choose to scan demon out of anyone?
https://www.webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/
https://www.webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4308
We really ought to be able to narrow the pool down ourselves.
They either hold the kill or kill me. Any wiser?
We need to get it bang on rather than 'narrow it down' but semantics apart I agree.
I feel like I have
1.10 am for me so it will have to wait. Goodnight.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:44 pmI feel like I have
Putting the case on pyxxy aside, which you may or may not be buying into, that reread ruled you out - your reaction to RHK’s claim was both not commuter and not a teammate as a teammate knows that his claim is fake and that the goal is for his fake claim to be revealed (case against pyxxy aside) and the commuter wouldn’t just let him kill someone. Wolfu was far more involved than someone whose intention it was to hide early on - the commuter would not put themselves on an island where they had to use their role early and would presumably avoid major confrontation. On the same note, wolfu’s willingness to be confrontational, especially the last few days, has me firmly believing that he is town, and his vote history supports that hypothesis. That leaves, from your perspective, pyxxy and myself, and from my perspective it leaves pyxxy, which I only use to instill further confidence in my case. Regardless, the only one of that POE that has a cogent case made against them is pyxxy, so if you don’t buy that, the only way you can contribute to getting it “bang on” would be to make a case against me and actually question me.
I'm back :) and I caught up before starting to write this. Celaph, huh. Guess that's why Ike wasn't modkilled. I thought damo was the commuter more on this laterbo_sox48 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:43 pmIf defending against my flimsy hypothetical that I know everyone thinks even though it's bad to think about with another flimsy hypothetical is the best you can do against that case then I'm not sure I see any reason to consider changing my mindpyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:33 pmYour post is too big to really manage but I just wanted to pull this one part
There's no other reason, perhaps? Might want to ask damo about this. I think he and I are on the same page, similarly defense minded.This scenario ends with three scumteam members dead - none of the three ever bussed pyxxy - and one remaining player, orchestrating miskills with clever nightkills and driving discussion while not actively leading it, survives. This remaining player should be an obvious nightkill as, again, nobody will be brave enough to kill pyxxy over any other reasonable option in the remotely near future. But alas this player is the last remaining member of the mafia team and a nightkill is not in their future. Which explains why pyxxy, who we have all completely ignored as a suspect for several days now, is still alive.
I don't want to distract from it though. I've got a doc appt in an hour so I'll be back in a few.
^explanationbo_sox48 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:26 pmSorry for missing these.pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:02 pmAlso I'm in a bit of a "let the lurkers live a little" phase because it's been wrong in M75 and M1021, which sure is maybe a little more of the gambler's fallacy (trying to nail 1 scum lurking in 3 people is going to miss 2 out of 3 times).pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:59 pm
Because iirc pressuring rdr to post more got him NK'd N1 in M1021
https://mafia.peterlund.se/m1021/game_status.html
idr if it got talked about in the M1021 game thread but in the discord, the scum in that game said that they killed rdr because of his vanilla/PR tell and iirc there was some pressure on him to post more in that game? granted I could be misremembering all this
But like I agreed with worcej earlier, I agree with the idea that scum are more likely to be more active because of the N0.
I disagree with pretty much everything you’ve said here but most of it is philosophical so I’ll just say you’re wrong and let it be.
As for not pressuring rdrivera and explicitly noting that you won’t pressure rdrivera because he couldn’t handle pressure in a prior game, that is some bullshit. If he’s too busy to play he just won’t reply - who cares?
##VOTE pyxxy
rdr -00:01 (1:59:04 pm PT)
This vote comes closely after demon's vote for worcej at 1:58:58 pm PT
Too close, in case. This would be an argument for town!bo. Except for this:
wolfu votes for rdr at 1:58:39 pm PT.
that's at 1:59:48 pm PT
And I believe him. Or rather, similar to how bona crafted a town tell by voting for darg, bo has crafted a town tell here by voting for worcej 1) to legitimately avoid a tie situation, and 2) after worcej was almost certainly dead because 3) bo has just watched the rest of his scum team blatantly pile onto worcej to save bona and the best defense to this is to move onto worcej after it seemingly no longer matters, and to _also_ claim town cred for trying to avoid a tie.
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bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:04 amI see no reason not to vote for bozo here, partly because I already halfheartedly scumread him but primarily because I can’t come up with an explanation for mafia outing themselves to take out one player when (prior to Rumi’s modkill) they were on the verge of an auto win. Now not so much - lucky us I guess - and in the present situation it still wouldn’t make any sense to swap 1-for-1.
bo says "I see no reason not to vote for bozo here"...but he doesn't.
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:41 pmbozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:39 pmI think bo_sox needs to be included in our last 3 DKs. His recent posts make no sense and for him to be town he would have to have no awareness of the current game state. He also seemed bothered that Rumi Tobari made it harder for the mafia to win.
I’m pretty sure I haven’t commented on the Rumi thing but if you’re reading my mind yeah someone quitting the game and the entire website because their mental health is in shambles bothers me.