MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#1881 Post by Rumi Tobari » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:07 pm

dargorygel wrote:
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@RUMI
i know you are insecure about your vote. But i mote that while GMs might be gracious regarding a missed vote due to real life events, they might be less so for a player choosing not to vote.

I am not suggesting this. But there is the No Kill option.
Don't worry, I'm still watching the thread to the exclusion of all else in my life.
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#1882 Post by ghug » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:08 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:01 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:41 pm
Ok, people i don't want to kill because they're townie:
worcej, Rumi, Eden, celaph, ghug

Damn that's a shitty list. I'd kill anyone else I think. Vecna is probably scum but I don't love D1ing him.
Celaph of all people?

Also, I really cba sorting your allignment. Whether you genuinely think im scum or just decided im a target this game - have at it.

Youre dancing alone this game. aint no productive shit coming from us tango'in.

Im happy youre so thrilled by my content though
I'm not thrilled by your content. That's exactly the problem.
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#1883 Post by Vecna » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:02 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:53 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:51 pm
1. I always push for consolidation of votes, check pretty much any game if you don't remember.

2. I am more anxious about the chance of a draw or a scum-influenced miskill due to the presence of the Name Tags.
1. It seemed premature here. Usually I empathize.

2. This is a fair explanation I hadn't considered.
Cool, cool. We good.
it almost feels like my senses have weakened in my absence. I find myself agreeing and being understanding of way too much stuff.
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#1884 Post by Rumi Tobari » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:09 pm

I have a question, do we have any more of a case against Damo other than no opinions of his own? Other people being familiar with Damo seemed to imply that's normal for him as both town and scum.

Also, I'm not fully following what exaclty the case against Byz is, and I Feel kinda embarrassed at myself for not really comprehending it, but I think I understand that one exists, but not full specifics.
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#1885 Post by President Eden » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:10 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:59 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:56 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:56 pm


When did we delete Kingdom?
What if I told you I never actually deleted it and it’s now my server for my stream 8-)
I am curious about following this stream.
https://www.twitch.tv/eden_not_ttv

don’t get hopes up, it’s super amateurish
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#1886 Post by Vecna » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:11 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:08 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:01 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:41 pm
Ok, people i don't want to kill because they're townie:
worcej, Rumi, Eden, celaph, ghug

Damn that's a shitty list. I'd kill anyone else I think. Vecna is probably scum but I don't love D1ing him.
Celaph of all people?

Also, I really cba sorting your allignment. Whether you genuinely think im scum or just decided im a target this game - have at it.

Youre dancing alone this game. aint no productive shit coming from us tango'in.

Im happy youre so thrilled by my content though
I'm not thrilled by your content. That's exactly the problem.
Eh, you hardly ever are, youre tough to please.

Anyways, I barely even got started playing this game
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#1887 Post by Vecna » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:12 pm

it does sorta feel like disappointing your dad though, for some peculiar reason
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#1888 Post by celaph » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:14 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:46 pm
@Eden: In the context of these comments, what do you feel about the fact that Sabi is hardcore defending Byz, complaining and criticising anyone who suspects or votes Byz.... as if Byz is basically Sabi's top townread and, apparently, a hillock that Sabi is prepared to die on.
I don't agree with your characterization of Sabi as hardcore defending Byz here. Compare the way that Sabi talks about Neon and Byz. They have a much more active townread on Neon whereas they seem to be rather null on Byz, only defending their townyness by saying that they aren't actively scummy.



With Neon, Sabi seems to genuinely townread her, it's not just a blanket protection for being a new person.
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:30 am
Princess Neon wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:23 am
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:18 am
Eden doesn't seem townie rn
I concur
We are back to mindmelding together
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:00 pm
  • princess neon: her defense/hard shielding of Rumi doesn't feel like it's opportunistic or an attempt to pocket him. Her genuine read and belief in him being town has seems confident but not in a tmi way (like the way wolfs know who is town because they aren't wolfs). Her posting hasn't been stiff and awkward
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:52 pm
Neon is town but I will let yall figure that out but I swear to God if you scare her off I will send you to the shadow relm.
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:22 pm
I veto any D1 kill in neon. Find someone else
In contrast, Sabi shows far less confidence in defending Byz
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:24 am
Hmm I'm surprised by you town leaning Justin.
Why is giving you rdr is mafia pings? Do you think he's still in his wolf range?
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:21 pm
Byz wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:09 pm
Sabi, are you pocketing me btw?
No. If I were you were have been townread by me with a lot more conviction. You are just null atm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:56 pm

You're going to flip Byz just as likely so then what? I isoed Byz and he doesn't seem agenda driven in this game like he did in Bona game.
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#1889 Post by Rumi Tobari » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:16 pm

What's the case not ot vote for Pyx?

As much as I like that Pyx has seen Kakegurui and seems to understand my anime references, I don't feel that Pyx has particualrly contributed or done anything.
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#1890 Post by Byz » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:16 pm

I've been stewing on this at work and I really think the way Eden has treated my slot is near outing. This boy has been up in arms over me first having an early pressure vote and then finding an actual scummy ping to back it up. Since then, they've been pushing any narrative they can find to discredit my takes in thread. They started doing this by "town leaning" me, while talking about how bad for town my scumhunting is. All the while, they insisted they didn't want to vote here while continuing to throw shade.

The second a viable wagon looks possible to start, Eden hops on immediately. Their talk about town leaning and waiting for D2 didn't mean anything. They were always trying to undermine what I was saying, ever since I dared to vote them and didn't immediately back down.

They are attempting to control the thread environment, and don't appreciate those stepping outside of that control. This is a scum. Kill them.

##VOTE President Eden
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#1891 Post by President Eden » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:17 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:09 pm
I have a question, do we have any more of a case against Damo other than no opinions of his own? Other people being familiar with Damo seemed to imply that’s normal for him as both town and scum.

Also, I’m not fully following what exaclty the case against Byz is, and I Feel kinda embarrassed at myself for not really comprehending it, but I think I understand that one exists, but not full specifics.
Townies only know their own role, but the mafia know their role and their teammates, and by extension who isn’t on their team. Thus, you can sometimes catch out mafia for having an “unnatural progression” on their reads—because they already know the answers, but they have to look like they don’t. They have to come up with reasons why the behavior of players in the game caused them to change their views on the players’ alignment, even though their views didn’t actually change since the start of the game.

At least in my view, I think Byz’s progression on me and on Sabi was not reflective of a natural progression of reads. I’ve argued ad nauseam about how he’s more or less been inventing reasons to keep me in his suspects pool without meaningfully engaging with my behavior in this game, and I’ll spare another recounting of that. I recently recapped why I feel similarly about his treatment of Sabi.

Concededly, there are innocent explanations for both; Byz noted he was busy yesterday and maybe hasn’t had time to catch up on his read of me. I think this is belied by his post that clearly wants us to believe he has mostly caught up and has been actively reading at least about the people discussed in it… but you could still plausibly argue he just hasn’t gotten the chance to update his priors. And I noted in my recap that he probably has a higher baseline trust of Sabi for out-of-game reasons which could, if you wanted, explain away the odd progression on Sabi. And this whole argument is an inexact science, because how can you really divine what’s in somebody’s head? Maybe he just thinks about the game differently and makes odd jumps as town. Maybe he just doesn’t share his views as much as it might appear, and he’s had a lot more in his head he hasn’t posted. Etc.

But for a baseline on day 1 I think this is a reasonable starting point.
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#1892 Post by pyxxy » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:18 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:16 pm
What's the case not ot vote for Pyx?

As much as I like that Pyx has seen Kakegurui and seems to understand my anime references, I don't feel that Pyx has particualrly contributed or done anything.
More and more people have been saying this!
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#1893 Post by celaph » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:18 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:04 pm
Interesting that the webDip forum counts time as having begun on January 1st 1970 at 12:00.

I wonder why that is?

Maybe Kestas is hosting the site on a very old computer.
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... =unix+time
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#1894 Post by Rumi Tobari » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:18 pm

pyxxy wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:18 pm
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:16 pm
What's the case not ot vote for Pyx?

As much as I like that Pyx has seen Kakegurui and seems to understand my anime references, I don't feel that Pyx has particualrly contributed or done anything.
More and more people have been saying this!
Well... convince me then?
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#1895 Post by Chaqa » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:18 pm

Byz wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:16 pm
I've been stewing on this at work and I really think the way Eden has treated my slot is near outing. This boy has been up in arms over me first having an early pressure vote and then finding an actual scummy ping to back it up. Since then, they've been pushing any narrative they can find to discredit my takes in thread. They started doing this by "town leaning" me, while talking about how bad for town my scumhunting is. All the while, they insisted they didn't want to vote here while continuing to throw shade.

The second a viable wagon looks possible to start, Eden hops on immediately. Their talk about town leaning and waiting for D2 didn't mean anything. They were always trying to undermine what I was saying, ever since I dared to vote them and didn't immediately back down.

They are attempting to control the thread environment, and don't appreciate those stepping outside of that control. This is a scum. Kill them.

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#1896 Post by pyxxy » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:21 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:18 pm
pyxxy wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:18 pm
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:16 pm
What's the case not ot vote for Pyx?

As much as I like that Pyx has seen Kakegurui and seems to understand my anime references, I don't feel that Pyx has particualrly contributed or done anything.
More and more people have been saying this!
Well... convince me then?
I'm gonna need you to vote (for me) first :smirk:
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#1897 Post by Rumi Tobari » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:21 pm

I ahve a question, does the day end after time is up, or after the last vote is cast?
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#1898 Post by President Eden » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:22 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:21 pm
I ahve a question, does the day end after time is up, or after the last vote is cast?
Day ends when:

1. time is up
2. a majority of players have voted ##END while voting for the same player

Usually when time is up, but occasionally the latter happens.
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#1899 Post by pyxxy » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:24 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:21 pm
I ahve a question, does the day end after time is up, or after the last vote is cast?
Oh I wasn't baiting you to vote and end the day lmao, that would have been galaxy brain though
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#1900 Post by Byz » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:26 pm

I'm astounded Eden is as widely TR as they are. I don't know what they've been up to on the other half of the thread, but everytime I've been around they've been actively dismissing scum hunting and getting into cutesy "advice" sessions with Rumi clearly designed to build up their town cred
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