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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:29 pm
by Bonatogether
snowy801 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:03 pm
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:00 pm
I find myself inclined to believe jasnah based on the logic of the situation and BunnyGo based on his claim post. Which makes me think I am a sucker for thoughtful or thoughtful-seeming posts.
Is it weird that my first instinct was double town, with Jasnah faking?
I suppose it depends on how much respect I allocate to their base skill
well snowy went and said it
i saw jasnah's post and thought 'this is town trolling'
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:29 pm
by President Eden
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:27 pm
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:00 pm
I find myself inclined to believe jasnah based on the logic of the situation and BunnyGo based on his claim post. Which makes me think I am a sucker for thoughtful or thoughtful-seeming posts.
i have thoughts but they might spoil things
i have them written down so I don't forget
Same. Best to let jasnah weigh in first before our overeager town gives her five different cover stories lol.
ghug wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:27 pm
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:23 pm
snowy801 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:22 pm
Eden if you think we should 50/50 call it (which I'm not against in particular), who would you pick in this moment?
To be clear, I think most people want to kill both of them, and I do
not. If you already understood that I meant this then sorry for being repetitive.
I'm not sure which one I want to kill. I'm not even sure I want to kill either.
Doesn't not wanting to do the cautious thing and kill both of them run counter to your desire to no kill?
I think they're both consistent with a desire not to kill town when the incentives to do so aren't there. There's more on the subject that I'll revisit later (EON1/EON2) if they're still relevant.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:29 pm
by worcej
snowy801 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:24 pm
worcej wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:19 pm
snowy801 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:11 pm
This is a curiosity
Why immediately believe BunnyGo? Why are you certain enough to end on it, symbolic as it may be?
Bunny has been a townlean of mine and if I have to kill one of the two I'm picking the null. Go look back on his posting now with that reveal and you see him reference the miller and how it should play a lot. He did this back when he was the mailman role (I forget the exact role, but could send a PM via GM to someone and they could send a response back) and I was the item maker and we used that connect for me to give the gun to him.
His style now matches that same situation
exactly so I believe he is the Miller.
Ultimately, I think they both die.
Why'd you end vote?
I called it symbolic because certainly the argument can be made to vote both them out, in which case an actual effort ought to have been expended to call for quick back to back ends and you didn't. What went through your mind?
Because I am showing you that I don't believe Jasnah's claim and I strongly believe Bunny's so she dies first in my eyes.
Here are the situations:
- Jasnah is scum and faked this - cool we got one hilariously easily.
- Jasnah is town and faked this - terrible play and is incredibly anti-town, but at least we've removed someone who will most likely cost us the game down the road.
And either way, Bunny then dies next phase. We cannot know if she is or is not the Miller, so you D2 nuke him and we resume the game on D3.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:29 pm
by ghug
snowy801 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:28 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:25 pm
I like this line of questioning from snowy. I think it comes from a town perspective and I think it has merit. Double points!
If we're throwing around weird compliments then I quite liked Eden's immediate thought process in reaction to this
Though I also wondered if he knew which one was scum and was trying to deflect things his way, it didn't strike me thus
Yeah, I feel like scum deflecting would look more like Durga's reaction than Eden's.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:30 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
##VOTE BunnyGo
Two quick votes to end from him and worcej before we can even discuss the matter and before the original claimant can respond seems super suspect to me.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:30 pm
by ghug
Given that the counterclaimant is Bunny, I'm less sure than I'd like to be, but I think the play here is to kill jasnah and be done with it.
##VOTE jasnah
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:31 pm
by worcej
TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:30 pm
##VOTE BunnyGo
Two quick votes to end from him and worcej before we can even discuss the matter and before the original claimant can respond seems super suspect to me.
And every other end vote thrown around this day wasn't suspect for you?
I'm not moving off Jasnah this phase.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:32 pm
by jasnah
TBH it would have been useful to town that I become clear, subsequently everyone can vote the mafia I'm on and we easily win.
If Bunnygo is a town, he played really bad here, because town is guaranteed to win once it's accepted that I'm conf PR, doesn't matter what role DemonRHK wants to think I am
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:33 pm
by bozotheclown
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:15 pm
snowy801 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:01 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:40 pm
Can someone remember what specific game jasnah carried town in? I don’t know who this is?
A cursory browse tells me it's M65, if it's the only other game they played
Bunny I'm not really seeing these crumbs you said exists. Care to pull them out of the hat?
Also why crumb miller?
Go read the first letters of my sentences.
There are other crumbs, but I’ll let you find those with this hint: steganography is fun!
As to why: Ghug convinced me the only value to this role is to get a CC. So I better have a crumb for the CC if I’m going to not claim this role ASAP.
Fake crumbing miller is not a bad idea for mafia, it sets up a miller claim if cop scanned.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:33 pm
by jasnah
I think the best play is still to kill Bunny because if he is town, he will drive the town into the ground, and if he's mafia, then killing him helps town
##vote bunnygo
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:33 pm
by Bonatogether
I don't know that there is two scum here, so I'm not sold on a 50/50, but I don't want either's wagon to die, so I'm not moving my vote.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:33 pm
by President Eden
jasnah wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:32 pm
TBH it would have been useful to town that I become clear, subsequently everyone can vote the mafia I'm on and we easily win.
If Bunnygo is a town, he played really bad here, because town is guaranteed to win once it's accepted that I'm conf PR, doesn't matter what role DemonRHK wants to think I am
You're not even on mafia you clown
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:34 pm
by snowy801
Oh my a double down
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:34 pm
by Fluminator
Damo, why do you think I'm voting you?
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:35 pm
by jasnah
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:33 pm
jasnah wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:32 pm
TBH it would have been useful to town that I become clear, subsequently everyone can vote the mafia I'm on and we easily win.
If Bunnygo is a town, he played really bad here, because town is guaranteed to win once it's accepted that I'm conf PR, doesn't matter what role DemonRHK wants to think I am
You're not even on mafia you clown
Are you high? I've just voted Bunnygo, whose continued persistence of speech will be very bad for town, and I've even explained why
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:35 pm
by Durga
ghug wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:30 pm
Given that the counterclaimant is Bunny, I'm less sure than I'd like to be, but I think the play here is to kill jasnah and be done with it.
##VOTE jasnah
WTF why did you have to roll scum I'm so upset
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:36 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
worcej wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:31 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:30 pm
##VOTE BunnyGo
Two quick votes to end from him and worcej before we can even discuss the matter and before the original claimant can respond seems super suspect to me.
And every other end vote thrown around this day wasn't suspect for you?
I'm not moving off Jasnah this phase.
There were no meaningful end votes until now. End votes when it didn't look like there was any momentum behind a wagon to kill that day is a just a lame attempt at humor. End votes when it looks like there is a build-up to kill one of two people quickly is.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:36 pm
by President Eden
jasnah wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:35 pm
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:33 pm
jasnah wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:32 pm
TBH it would have been useful to town that I become clear, subsequently everyone can vote the mafia I'm on and we easily win.
If Bunnygo is a town, he played really bad here, because town is guaranteed to win once it's accepted that I'm conf PR, doesn't matter what role DemonRHK wants to think I am
You're not even on mafia you clown
Are you high? I've just voted Bunnygo, whose continued persistence of speech will be very bad for town, and I've even explained why
You were still voting me at the time you made this post. You are so silly.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:36 pm
by snowy801
Loathe as I am to leave in peak business hours, I'll see you guys in a bit
I expect the votes will naturally coalesce to our two claimants, but don't let discussion regarding Durga, worcej and other people we had suspicions on stall esp. wrt our current topic
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:37 pm
by Durga
snowy801 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:19 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:18 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:15 pm
She's probably just having fun and wanted the miller discussion to stop. Idk why anyone actually claimed against her very fake sounding claim anyway.
I didn’t really view it as a fake claim. You did? I was kinda just assuming jasnah was Miller
Also didn't see it that way. "hard claim miller" halfway into a day with like 3 people saying d1 is when they reveal isn't words lightly bandied about
Her posts up to that point were just trolling why would that one be serious
