Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[ghug]

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@ ghug

Who do you think are my most likely scum partner? If/when I flip town, how would you reevaluate or not your conception of the scum team?

HR, lfischl, brain, Bunny, thamrick all look like they could have tried to save you; I'd expect at least two scum in that group. If you flip town, I know they didn't try to save you, and whether I can draw anything from the VCA comes down to Jamie's role. If yesterday was TvTvT, all I've got is vibes, which is a little fledgling townpool of Bob, emc, Maniac, Jamie, and I suppose brain.

This post is once again very disconnected from earlier posts.

If im not a townread, how come I dont get more flack for acting like a highschooler?

If im not a townread, then why were you concerned with me scumreading you?

Why do you townread Jamiet?

The highschooler thing was a joke.

When was I concerned with you scumreading me?

Jamie made it intimately clear at yesterday's EoD that he was a PR.

[brainbomb]

damo is as flimsy and slimy as Jamiet’s spaghetti

[damo666]

You're putting the cart before the horse here. You can't assume I'm scum, ask a loaded question, then use my response as proof I'm scum.

You are missing the point Bona. I was wondering how EMC picked up that you are jailer if indeed you are jailer and he did indeed pick it up.

What I am in fact doing is casting doubt on my own theory since you don't have an ultra distinctive giveaway posting style (content notwithstanding but that is probably not pertinent to jailer questionning).

Why are you assuming that I am jailor? I don't see why you're doing that.

I'm not. Hence the 'if'.

Jasnah was voting you so I was exploring the hypothesis that EMC had revealed his jailer and as Jasnah was voting for you this would indicate you are jailer.

However Jasnah has now moved off you which means my theory is almost certainly wrong.

This does not however mean you are not scum and indeed you might be the jailer.

[damo666]

OK, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I move that we not have a runaway wagon like 15 hours into a day where we desperately need to DK scum. Last night and yesterday I was a lot more chill about town's position, but as I became more and more certain emc was going to be modkilled and was town, combined with HR the town effortposter dead, it became more important to cut down on the waste of scarce public resources.

Everyone is aware of the case for and against Bona. For better or for worse he's been in the limelight long enough that we all know how and why we would kill him off. In the meantime we ought to reinvigorate public discourse and focus attention on some new areas of deliberation.

##vote thamrick

OK I interpret this as EMC not having imparted anything daminin to jasnah and sheeping is no longer advocated though of course still entirely reasoanble.

##unvote

you seem to be really struggling to find an easy person to camp on today.

Yep. I haven't a clue who scum are apart from not Jamie and probably not jasnah and Macca.

I'll try ##vote lfischl. Not strong reasons.

[Bonatogether]

You are missing the point Bona. I was wondering how EMC picked up that you are jailer if indeed you are jailer and he did indeed pick it up.

What I am in fact doing is casting doubt on my own theory since you don't have an ultra distinctive giveaway posting style (content notwithstanding but that is probably not pertinent to jailer questionning).

Why are you assuming that I am jailor? I don't see why you're doing that.

I'm not. Hence the 'if'.

Jasnah was voting you so I was exploring the hypothesis that EMC had revealed his jailer and as Jasnah was voting for you this would indicate you are jailer.

However Jasnah has now moved off you which means my theory is almost certainly wrong.

This does not however mean you are not scum and indeed you might be the jailer.

If emc revealed me as jailer to jasnah then she would have said that, flat out.

[Bonatogether]

OK I interpret this as EMC not having imparted anything daminin to jasnah and sheeping is no longer advocated though of course still entirely reasoanble.

##unvote

you seem to be really struggling to find an easy person to camp on today.

Yep. I haven't a clue who scum are apart from not Jamie and probably not jasnah and Macca.

I'll try ##vote lfischl. Not strong reasons.

that's scummy as heck

[brainbomb]

oh gosh
oh heck

[Bonatogether]

oh gosh
oh heck

?

[jasnah]

@damo Why not thamrick? He's actively browsing this forum. If able he should say something especially that he's done barely nothing past couple phases aside from existing and presumably breathing from the scarce supply of oxygen. Do you have knowledge of him being incapacitated from participating in day chat somehow?

[Vecna]

PART ZES

##Call GM How did my messages in QT get deleted?? Does some other joker just get to delete what I wrote? I was under the impression that you can only delete or edit from the same IP, but apparently not.

Im really wondering what the hell happened in there lol. This game is such a mess

And just a moment ago you liked my townpool...

Assuming that you're serious. I had obviously written that I liked your townpool without damo, which you can see from the post that I was quoting and replied to. And then wrote an addendum to express my views on damo after I saw that you had also post hoc added him in. Your "gotcha" message after that as if you could not obviously see what I was referring to and so I must have made some grievous self contradiction enraged me because of how baseless it was.

See, I don't buy this. Disagreement on one read doesn't really make or break how well you're meshing with a person, and you said "your reads have already proven to be worthless this game so far" in response to the damo thing, which implies that you thought they were worthless before that.

aaah fuck, im starting to get town-pings from Ghug

This is baaaad

Why would it be unlikely? The wagons are not the process of a random draw. They are the result of scum actively avoiding being a wagon, scum actively trying to generate town wagons, and the complex interplay of town trying to find scum and being more likely to get it wrong than right.

Who do you think are the scum who voted for Chaqa?

I have no intention of checking this out but when there are 3 competing wagons day 1 rarely are all 3 town.

As for the Chaqa wagon I think there is at least one scum in {celaph, thamrick, lfischl}

You have no intention of checking, but you're going to assert it as fact? That's sUpEr hElPfUL!!1!

Why do you think celaph, tham, and lfischl are likely to be scum?

Im so lazy, but I should probably refresh my memory to see if my Angry/agitated fox=town fox meta feeling is correct.

Scum fox in my memory plays completely without emotion.

Long ago, mightve changed. Still, good feelings

That's not the same as being "hedgy".

"Vague," "indecisive," "evasive," "elusive," etc etc etc in a way that is not helpful. Whatever you like.

Ok Ok No No

"Clueless" would be fair.

@EMC - Id use my own meta on damo to say that self-deprecating is also more likely to be scummy. Hit me up after game to compare notes.

As town he's usually at least confident in his own process. If he's trying to reduce his own ability to weaken other players observations?

Feels more closer to his scumgame.

I might still be wrong.

Vecna feels like he just desperately wants to die

Sure wouldve saved me some time today :/

my point was that what hes doing only works on a scumteam with a lack of courage. doesnt make him scum

Or, in other words, you cant flip me just yet because my reads are too close to home?

(Maybe not yet, but itll get there - hopefully).
Weird string of posts by brainbomb.
Really

good news my interview went well and the guy liked me! I may be changing careers to an Operations Manager for an ecommerce business

Wait like?

didnt you start out as an artist? Dont I remember you doing like, paintings at some point?

Then became a chef at a golf-court

Worked in a store/warehouse

And now youre making this swap?

And somehow in between you got married in some german pictueresque village (if covid didnt fuck that)

Those are some moves youre making

[damo666]

@damo Why not thamrick? He's actively browsing this forum. If able he should say something especially that he's done barely nothing past couple phases aside from existing and presumably breathing from the scarce supply of oxygen. Do you have knowledge of him being incapacitated from participating in day chat somehow?

No but my memory of his style is very lurky. I think it is nai.

[damo666]

Why are you assuming that I am jailor? I don't see why you're doing that.

I'm not. Hence the 'if'.

Jasnah was voting you so I was exploring the hypothesis that EMC had revealed his jailer and as Jasnah was voting for you this would indicate you are jailer.

However Jasnah has now moved off you which means my theory is almost certainly wrong.

This does not however mean you are not scum and indeed you might be the jailer.

If emc revealed me as jailer to jasnah then she would have said that, flat out.

She was proscribed from so doing.

Anyway this is over.

[Bonatogether]

I'm not. Hence the 'if'.

Jasnah was voting you so I was exploring the hypothesis that EMC had revealed his jailer and as Jasnah was voting for you this would indicate you are jailer.

However Jasnah has now moved off you which means my theory is almost certainly wrong.

This does not however mean you are not scum and indeed you might be the jailer.

If emc revealed me as jailer to jasnah then she would have said that, flat out.

She was proscribed from so doing.

Anyway this is over.

##vote damo

[damo666]

@Vecna

I'll be more positive when we have more data. All I have at the mo is a small pool of townreads.

[thamrick]

God I hate not having time. I just got caught up in thread. Didn't end up having time during N1 to do much rereading because we had to take our puppers to the vet

Getting strong townvibes from Bob McBob, jasnah, and celaph. Biggest scumreads so far are bona and foxcastle.

I've gotta head in to work soon and I'm working 12 hr shifts the next few days so my participation not likely to improve. Sorry. I free up next week so hopefully will be able to ISO more.

##VOTE Bonatogether

[damo666]

If emc revealed me as jailer to jasnah then she would have said that, flat out.

She was proscribed from so doing.

Anyway this is over.

##vote damo

##vote Bona

I can't put up with this persistent nonsense any more.

[brainbomb]

foxcastle is famous for angry fights with Balki and I believe he will refuse to play if Balki plays. additionally foxcastle was livid with emc on a few occasions for inactivity

[brainbomb]

She was proscribed from so doing.

Anyway this is over.

##vote damo

##vote Bona

I can't put up with this persistent nonsense any more.

Fake
youve tolerated far worse before.

[Bonatogether]

There's no counterwagon, which makes me think this is a scum-motivated push.

[worcej]

Have you never played with me before?

My value goes up over time. I hate early game. No info and it's all randomness and egomaniacs. Fuck that shit.

Why are you now parroting Chaqa?