Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[damo666]

Fake
youve tolerated far worse before.

It's not fake. He doesn't seem capable of comprehension.

Youve been acting like you desperately need an easy target to park on. first it was Jamie, day 1 it was jasnah, then it was me out of omgus, then it was bona.

im getting really nervous vibes from you that ive never seen before

If I were scum would that make sense. This is my typical clueless early days town flapping around cluelessly phase.

[brainbomb]

the hilarious part is that everyone is voting bona because jasnah made it seem like hes the mp jailor, and jasnah isnt even there anymore and specifically wants to elim tham instead. yet damo hops on first claiming its probably based on walkie chat stuff, then its because bona is just being too persistently annoying

[Vecna]

PART SIEDEM

he asked you a question mother fucka

So?

I'm getting good vibes from this HR too. Need to see more of him.

One has to somewhat wonder about the timing of this statement (as in, just before the DK). Not sure Bunny would make it that obvious, but maybe he does those type of things where he just cant resist

Unsurprisingly, I have a guilty on Jamie. Considering the Miller's dead, I'm fairly sure in my decision.

oh, interesting

1/11 scum then. I was only pissing about. Anyway with a guilty claim on you it's irrelevant now.

I take it that it's actually not a guilty claim, unfortunately. It's an Area-51 claim.

Explain please

Unsurprisingly, I have a guilty on Jamie. Considering the Miller's dead, I'm fairly sure in my decision.

Clarify please Macca

Yikes, there are some bad responses from damo

Jamie if youre really Alien Researcher youre basically outted now. tell us more

I'm afraid so.

In addition, the Deputy does not differentiate between Mafia members who work at AREA-51 and town PR’s that work at AREA-51. The Alien Researcher and potentially 0-2 Miller’s.

This is not good for Town. I wish Macca had read the setup more carefully.

We're pretty screwed now.

So.....were supposed to believe Jamiet was at 8-7 in votes for quite a while, and never claimed this? Like, it did feel a little bit like he was appealing to the "im important" statement, but would he really just not claim there?

Guess without a CC…..I s2g if KGray or EMC was that role and scum jamiet wins purely on this

It's not a good idea for the Mafia to try to kill me, since I can't hunt them, only the Alien.

I declare this scummy as all hell.

Ok it's been fucking obvious that Jamie's a PR since yesterday. I want to say that anyone who didn't get this is suspect, but apparently HR was town, so I can't.

Hmmm, interesting yet again.

And scum would have no way of knowing that it was the one PR that would favor them also to leave alive....so?

Am I really going to have to give even more town-points to Ghug here?

##GM NOTE
for the bot
(and for enquiring minds)

EMC was found later... his tongue apparently pulled out by pliars. Official work, no doubt, keeping order. HIs face was sad.

e.m.c^42 has died. He was Al Barthomolew Einstein, a Vanilla Townie.

He was gripping the remains of a satelite phone.

OH, we DID learn his identity.

Thank fuck
Also, conveniently, this order of my Catchup is gonna make me look hella good.

Good luck painting it that ive been acting all these walls out while I already knew the shit of jamiet/EMC from my scumchat.

booya

[worcej]

I declare this scummy as all hell.

Ok it's been fucking obvious that Jamie's a PR since yesterday. I want to say that anyone who didn't get this is suspect, but apparently HR was town, so I can't.

...it was?

I thought he was scum or PR, but definitely not a VT. Jamie has some obvious signs about when he isn't a VT.

[brainbomb]

damo would appear to be bussing bona here and is annoyed at how the day is going

[damo666]

##vote brain because he is being bizarre

When is he not bizarre? Honest question.

Hardly ever so fair point.

[jasnah]

@Bona Never call me a dictator. I'm reading your posts despite the feeling of discomfort they give me. Due process and all that. So tell me, if this is a scum driven push, who are the scum and who are the sheep? And why are the mob picking on you?

[worcej]

##GM NOTE
for the bot
(and for enquiring minds)

EMC was found later... his tongue apparently pulled out by pliars. Official work, no doubt, keeping order. HIs face was sad.

e.m.c^42 has died. He was Al Barthomolew Einstein, a Vanilla Townie.

He was gripping the remains of a satelite phone.

Found it jasnah.

[brainbomb]

pro tip
search for gm msgs before doing deep fake analysis.

[BobMcBob]

vecna welcome to me town list
you look like youll fit pretty nicely on there for the time being

[jasnah]

damo would appear to be bussing bona here and is annoyed at how the day is going

Funny that you bring this up, because I look at some of these interactions Bona has with people who have voted him, and it crossed my mind that I wouldn't be surprised if someone were bussing Bona. I'm not that damo was the first name to come to mind, but he's not wrong when he points out literally that there is no counterwagon, which is at the same time trivial and true. Scum driven push on the weakest of their own?

[damo666]

damo would appear to be bussing bona here and is annoyed at how the day is going

tbh if I were scum with Bona I might!

[Vecna]

but some people haven't shown up, remember

Yes and if someone shows up and Counter-Claims me then you can kill me today, ok? Until then, you might show me the benefit of the doubt instead of being completely blind to the possibility that I'm town. You have this demented idea that I must be scum and it's fucking stupid now.

Ok. I'm cool with that.

I feel like this conversation is looking very favorably for bona

[worcej]

How come we learned EMC had a Satellite Phone, when he flipped, but we didn't learn what items Chaqa or Hellenic Riot had?

Valid question... I wonder if I'll learn the answer as I read.

[brainbomb]

saying there is no viable counterwagon with 29 fucking hours left and its 5-2 and the guy hes voting is literally scummier than a plumbers asscrack

[Vecna]

i could conceive of bona being town here, but its unlikely
he is more likely scum who realises hes playing bad but realises he can use a wifom defence and by seeming careless will deflect attention
i do not expect this kind of play from town bona
if he is town i suggest he backs down and stops playing one of the worst towngames ive seen since i was starting out

I like bob too, again.

He still has some questions to answer im sure

[brainbomb]

In an effort to stop the public GM calls I asked them privately if infection is flipped on dead infected and it is not. not on the night of infection, not on night after, not three noghts after —- NEVER.

so pretty much Jamie couldve claimed anytime without fear on being the nk. The only way to track any infected rates in this is Jamie or the triage kit.

Pretty much Jamie got really lucky guessing researcher was dead — or he just didnt wanna claim in case maf or alien had m16 or ray gun.

[Vecna]

I consider not cc'ing to be anti-town, not overwhelmingly so given the lack of protective role in this setup, but anti-town nonetheless.

Not cc'ing now and being allowed to cc later is a great way to give mafia late game claim space and run a large risk of DK'ing a town PR because our shits and giggles wanted to YOLO in on the prospect of another hidden PR.

Also, Jamie's only choice wasn't to claim AR, he could as easily have claimed to have been gently visited last night by Man in Black, which isn't particularly farfetched when he was one of the main accused yesterday.

If there's real AR and they aren't cc'ing, Jamie lives and gets to be semi-clear.

This. Theres no way for Jamiet to know whether Kgray was scientist. Claiming framing wouldve been much better.

Jamiet could be alien doing a hail mary, but voting him for that extremely unlikely outcome seems foolish.

[worcej]

bona played a blatantly obnoxious scumgame last time
he was pretty widely townread before being scanned
i feel like he may be purposefully ignoring the obviously correct answers
he didnt back down last game as scum despite being told he was wrong and knowing he was wrong
as town id expect him to not so stubbornly stick to what he knows is wrong

Last game was a fluke and it would never work again precisely because everyone brings it up when discussing my meta.

From my perspective, your meta walks a very tight line around scum.

Even as town, you come off inherently scummy. This is what makes you hard to read.

[brainbomb]

Simply put, we have to elim the alien today and I believe it is damo.