Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:28 pm
##Vote Celaph.
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Don't you think it makes the most sense to vote for our top suspect and then go from there after the flip? We can't DK two people, and the vig already shot. So I don't really see the point of doing this.dargorygel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:41 pmWould it be helpful if we all listed our two top guesses for the scum team right now? I am not desiring to give the scumroom info for their faction kill. But maybe we would find we have more cohesion than we think.
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TBH, we are all floundering a little.
We have no absolute, confirmed, scumfolk.
So when someone suggests that "BLANK" is my top, the person in question (whether they are scum or not) can always poke holes in the theory. Because it is theory. It is not much more than gut, augmented by a bit of logic.
I didn't want him to be the D1 kill.Durga wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:52 pmI don't remember his reason, but also everyone was voting for me at some point just because I wasn't around so it's not just bozo's reason I don't recall. Damo felt sus because he joke voted me and stayed there because he quoted math.
Also, why didn't *you* vote for bozo?
Rivera changes metas often? When does hie passionately argue ideas? Usually he's logical, yes, which is part of why I found his push on me so suspicious. But I'd never call him a "superstar" in terms of leading town and pressuring reads...dargorygel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:18 pmRdrivera because of his bumping along the thread. Rdrivera has, as i have noted, changed metas more often than Brain. Effectively. This time, as i read him, he does not come up with any new ideas, or argue passionately or logically. He shoots a few pea-shots at ideas... repeat suspicions... and does not seem like superstar rdr.
No... these are not 'cases.' But they are the rationale behind my present gut-votes.
I also note bozo's lack of communication with these two... but he really didn't have mucho commincationo with anyone that i recall.
Note: I actually went to check, and I could not verify this statement. The game where I thought he was bussing our other teammate, he did not.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:10 pmVecna says that Bozo has sometimes bussed his team-mates hard, in the past. What is your verdict of this assessment of Bozo's history?
no.
Give me something to work with then ffs.
This is something I can agree with you. I can be passionate when something triggers me, but I usually then to be logical. And my biggest flaw is I usually suck at pushing my reads.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:52 pmRivera changes metas often? When does hie passionately argue ideas? Usually he's logical, yes, which is part of why I found his push on me so suspicious. But I'd never call him a "superstar" in terms of leading town and pressuring reads...dargorygel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:18 pmRdrivera because of his bumping along the thread. Rdrivera has, as i have noted, changed metas more often than Brain. Effectively. This time, as i read him, he does not come up with any new ideas, or argue passionately or logically. He shoots a few pea-shots at ideas... repeat suspicions... and does not seem like superstar rdr.
No... these are not 'cases.' But they are the rationale behind my present gut-votes.
I also note bozo's lack of communication with these two... but he really didn't have mucho commincationo with anyone that i recall.
I am too lazy to look for it, but I remember Bozo saying he didn't like to buss unless really necessary.Vecna wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:53 pmNote: I actually went to check, and I could not verify this statement. The game where I thought he was bussing our other teammate, he did not.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:10 pmVecna says that Bozo has sometimes bussed his team-mates hard, in the past. What is your verdict of this assessment of Bozo's history?
Regardless, I dont think that holds any merit as an argument. Even if he's not prone to do it, does not mean he never will.
Thank you.celaph wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:00 pm@jamie, you voted for me. Here is a gold star. If you want good thoughts then I think Darg had some on the last page regarding rdr as the third scum after Durga.
I'm confident it's not kgray given her interactions with Bozo. I doubt that scum kgray highlights how scum Bozo has been interacting with her like she did D1 and I further doubt that scum kgray highlights how that she was right so early.
I don't think it's Vecna based on his approach to solving the game. It would be particularly bold for him to townlock Maniac only to shoot him at night. I think Vecna's read on kgray has also been rather spot on in that she is getting scumread similarly to M62, for her voting patterns despite her other behavior.
I'd be shocked if Darg had a scum bone in his body this game. His questioning is pointed and accurate. He has been tracking things well and from a perspective that feels very towny. He voted for Bozo half-way through D1 calling him out.
Beyond that I think that Jamie and lfischl are likely both town though I feel better about the former than the latter by a small margin. Like I feel Jamie's annoyance at me now comes from a townie place than some scum trying to push for a miskill.
Rdr has almost been forgettable for large portions of this game. The thing that stick out to me about him is that he signaled some level of concern with both the Bona and Damo wagons yet did little to seriously push against either of them. Particularly yesterday when he said that he felt that Bona was probably town and yet didn't switch his vote to a Durga he had consistently scumread.
We're literally never killing celaph.celaph wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:00 pm@jamie, you voted for me. Here is a gold star. If you want good thoughts then I think Darg had some on the last page regarding rdr as the third scum after Durga.
I'm confident it's not kgray given her interactions with Bozo. I doubt that scum kgray highlights how scum Bozo has been interacting with her like she did D1 and I further doubt that scum kgray highlights how that she was right so early.
I don't think it's Vecna based on his approach to solving the game. It would be particularly bold for him to townlock Maniac only to shoot him at night. I think Vecna's read on kgray has also been rather spot on in that she is getting scumread similarly to M62, for her voting patterns despite her other behavior.
I'd be shocked if Darg had a scum bone in his body this game. His questioning is pointed and accurate. He has been tracking things well and from a perspective that feels very towny. He voted for Bozo half-way through D1 calling him out.
Beyond that I think that Jamie and lfischl are likely both town though I feel better about the former than the latter by a small margin. Like I feel Jamie's annoyance at me now comes from a townie place than some scum trying to push for a miskill.
Rdr has almost been forgettable for large portions of this game. The thing that stick out to me about him is that he signaled some level of concern with both the Bona and Damo wagons yet did little to seriously push against either of them. Particularly yesterday when he said that he felt that Bona was probably town and yet didn't switch his vote to a Durga he had consistently scumread.
Hope you are all right about Durga so you can afford myskilling me.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:04 pmNow my scumreads are Durga and Rdrivera.
Town Durga would try harder than this.
##VOTE DURGA