Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[celaph]

literally i'm sorry but bona has posted practically nothing substantive (and he's actually been around) and he continues to just react to his name and not much else. i'm pretty sure he's scum here

Hi, have you read my first game? The one you were in? The one were I was VT and did the exact same thing?

Firstly, it slightly concerns me how self-aware you are on this matter as I suspect that you might attempt to replicate this. Secondly, I think ghug's townread of you M62 was most notable. It wasn't because you were acting towny, but rather because you were showing a lack of understanding of how to play scum. You showed that in your susses and in thinking that the coordinator was planning big moves in their QTs. That isn't the case here.

[rdrivera2005]

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

I can partially clear myself and so you should vote someone else

Are you claiming Vig? There is no other role now....

[rdrivera2005]

Could Bona and Durga be scum together?

[kgray]

I take it yours has? Why?

No, it really hasn't. I still think you're reminding me a lot more of your scum game, and I think bona could just be an easier target than celaph, Vecna or I.

I don't want you to die, but I can't really justify defending you at this point

I'm so confused. How am I reminding you of my scum game? And why don't you keep your vote on me then?? I feel like there are contradictions in your post.

It's not about being an easy target, I think he's very likely to be scum because he's been super unable to come up with reasoning behind reads or anything that doesn't involve him. I haven't seen anything from you three that I would classify as scummy, although I'm a little confused at your thought process now.

Because that game you were constantly behind on the thread, and used it as an excuse not to participate much. I never voted for you in the first place? That's not really a contradiction, because I'm not convinced you're scum, I just don't townread you like I have when you've been town.

[ghug]

DAY 2 VOTE COUNT n+1.0

Bonatogether (6): rdrivera2005, dargorygel, Durga, kgray, Jimmyt99uk, celaph, Durga (5): Bonatogether, Vecna, Maniac, bozotheclown, lfischl

Currently, Bona''s on track to be outta here. 57 minutes remain.

[Jamiet99uk]

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

I can partially clear myself and so you should vote someone else

If you must do that, make sure you choose between Durga, Kgray, Celaph, or Vecna.

[Durga]

Could Bona and Durga be scum together?

lmao is this a real comment rdr

[Jamiet99uk]

The Vig processes at EoD, not instantly, mind you.

[kgray]

I take it yours has? Why?

No, it really hasn't. I still think you're reminding me a lot more of your scum game, and I think bona could just be an easier target than celaph, Vecna or I.

I don't want you to die, but I can't really justify defending you at this point

What are the particulars that remind you more of scum Durga than town Durga? I've only seen the latter.

Mostly her not being active and engaged. Which, yes, can also be explained by out of game reasons. I'm just not townreading her. And I *want* to townread her, so the fact that I don't definitely makes me suspicious.

[Durga]

No, it really hasn't. I still think you're reminding me a lot more of your scum game, and I think bona could just be an easier target than celaph, Vecna or I.

I don't want you to die, but I can't really justify defending you at this point

I'm so confused. How am I reminding you of my scum game? And why don't you keep your vote on me then?? I feel like there are contradictions in your post.

It's not about being an easy target, I think he's very likely to be scum because he's been super unable to come up with reasoning behind reads or anything that doesn't involve him. I haven't seen anything from you three that I would classify as scummy, although I'm a little confused at your thought process now.

Because that game you were constantly behind on the thread, and used it as an excuse not to participate much. I never voted for you in the first place? That's not really a contradiction, because I'm not convinced you're scum, I just don't townread you like I have when you've been town.

Can't really remember but I'm sure it doesn't actually compare to me not being around for one night

[Jamiet99uk]

Dammit now I'm basically forced to stay awake until 2am. Just as well I have a Uni day rather than work work tomorrow morning. The first session doesn't start until 10am so I'll get 7 hours sleep...

I presented my thesis (so far) to my fellow PhD students and some external Profs today btw. It went well. A good day.

[kgray]

Celaph it’s up to you. I have to be offline until after EOD or maybe slightly before.

This makes me curious. If I ##vote Bona (yes I know I just voted), do you think that people on Durga's wagon will move to Bona? Otherwise, while I am the last vote not on the main wagons, town has otherwise decided. If people aren't satisfied with them they should be making arguments to each other instead of just waiting for me.

There's still an hour, you can vote whoever you think is scummier...

[Jamiet99uk]

If Bonatogether has gone offline so he can seek advice in the Mafia QT about the semi-claim he just made, I shall not be impressed.

BONA, where you at?

[Durga]

where is vecna and why is he voting for me

[Jamiet99uk]

where is vecna and why is he voting for me

Somewhere in the Netherlands.

[kgray]

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

I can partially clear myself and so you should vote someone else

Hate this. If you're gonna claim, do it.

[celaph]

Celaph it’s up to you. I have to be offline until after EOD or maybe slightly before.

This makes me curious. If I ##vote Bona (yes I know I just voted), do you think that people on Durga's wagon will move to Bona? Otherwise, while I am the last vote not on the main wagons, town has otherwise decided. If people aren't satisfied with them they should be making arguments to each other instead of just waiting for me.

There's still an hour, you can vote whoever you think is scummier...

My vote is gonna stay on Bona while his half-claim is out there. I'm assuming he'll either claim vig or dig himself into a deeper hole which will make my job easy.

[kgray]

So Jamie, did your read of Durga change or no?

[kgray]

This makes me curious. If I ##vote Bona (yes I know I just voted), do you think that people on Durga's wagon will move to Bona? Otherwise, while I am the last vote not on the main wagons, town has otherwise decided. If people aren't satisfied with them they should be making arguments to each other instead of just waiting for me.

There's still an hour, you can vote whoever you think is scummier...

My vote is gonna stay on Bona while his half-claim is out there. I'm assuming he'll either claim vig or dig himself into a deeper hole which will make my job easy.

Ooh cool. My vote's staying here too then.

[Jamiet99uk]

So Jamie, did your read of Durga change or no?

She's making some contribution now, so it's softened, but I'm not townreading her.

I want to see how this Bona thing plays out now.

I did a re-read of Celaph's D1 and I'm inclined to lean town there too. I can post the ISO of that if it wouldn't be a distraction...?