Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[celaph]

Are you suggesting that you thought I was really, seriously, completely oblivious to the fact that Vecna was scumreading me, and I needed to ask him for clarification?

Really, seriously, for real tho?

I thought that you would know that Vecna was scumreading you hence my original comment that I was taken aback that you didn't seem to. It didn't read like a joke to me and so I felt compelled to take it seriously. I was actually considering whether you were faking not knowing because of how obvious it was.

Ok this is bordering on the ridiculous. I was mocking Vecna, just to make that totally clear.

To get to your larger point about why I scumread you.
- Your early pushes feel oddly manufactured. You seem to have targeted Maniac, someone more prone than average to be miskilled over a single post that you didn't even fully read. And it felt forced because it was pre-written, nothing else? I feel similar to your push on Durga at the moment. It seems to be more of an inactivity push than based on anything she has said.

Maniac is prefabricated and Durga has been present but palpably making no effort to help town or find scum. Give me a better reason to vote for someone other than Durga at this point, if you can?

- Comments like this asking Vecna who you're bussing today show that you're listening to the conversation yet leading it away from you. You ignore the whole latter part of Vecna's comment where he said you were loud mouthing all over the game, something that could be far more applicable to this game.

Again I am mocking Vecna and I'm sorry if you can't read the irony in my tone from these posts, but clearly you're misunderstanding that.

I like this defense. Feels honest and makes me think I'm either wrong or right for the wrong reasons. ##unvote

[Jamiet99uk]

@Jamie and Damo
If Durga is scum… who would you expect her scumbuddies to be?
(I'll try to check back later... busy day IRL. But I do not think jamie is scum. I am mildly satisfied with my present vote, but tell me about Durga?)

It's very hard to tell due to her lack of serious activity. Maybe Celaph? Maybe Kgray? Maybe someone who hasn't mentioned her at all?

Because of the way I talked about Durga or because you scumread me in general?

The former rather than the latter, but my confidence in this is not high.

[kgray]

Celaph are you scum agian?

[Bonatogether]

So far my suspects are Brainbomb, Maniac, and Durga. Ifischl and Celaph are the next level down. Betcha 2 scum in that group of 5.

Glad to see nobody talking about mechanics.

Why wasn't Bona on this list? Just because he hadn't posted yet?

That's right.

So am I off the list now?

[Jamiet99uk]

Why wasn't Bona on this list? Just because he hadn't posted yet?

That's right.

So am I off the list now?

How could I remove you from a list that you were not on to begin with?

[Bonatogether]

There are some obvious points like don't include yourself or the vig if they're outed.

Beyond that I would much rather get a group that is almost certainly clear (only not clear if all 3 are scum) than learn there is 1 or 2 scum in a group of 3. The latter is much less actionable. I could see a list like kgray, Vecna, a third (maybe rdr). They are my top two townreads right now and most likely to get us clears.

You think Rivera is towny too? Why?

Not especially, but I think that he makes a decent third. I'd probably put Damo+Bona in the running for that third spot. They all have moderate activity levels and haven't done anything I find particularly objectionable yet.

The other three near them activity level are Bozo, Darg, and me. Some of Bozo's opening questions were weird, Darg hasn't talked since page 6, and I know I'm town.

If I haven't done anything objectonable, why am I in the consideration for the 3rd spot? Seems unreasonable

[Bonatogether]

my most paranoid theory is that the maf team is exactly all the jamie voters and theyre bloc voting because scum would never do it.

I think this is an interesting idea. Let's get em

[Bonatogether]

Celaph are you scum agian?

I don't think he's scum

[Bonatogether]

How could I remove you from a list that you were not on to begin with?

I thought I was on it? I dunno

[kgray]

my most paranoid theory is that the maf team is exactly all the jamie voters and theyre bloc voting because scum would never do it.

I think this is an interesting idea. Let's get em

You want us to bus our teammate Vecna this early?

[Jamiet99uk]

How could I remove you from a list that you were not on to begin with?

I thought I was on it? I dunno

The thing you quoted started with Celaph asking me why your name was not on the list.

What the fuck?

[kgray]

##vote damo

[dargorygel]

##vote damo

Do you see damo's plan to help the Questioner as scum-motivated?

[celaph]

You think Rivera is towny too? Why?

Not especially, but I think that he makes a decent third. I'd probably put Damo+Bona in the running for that third spot. They all have moderate activity levels and haven't done anything I find particularly objectionable yet.

The other three near them activity level are Bozo, Darg, and me. Some of Bozo's opening questions were weird, Darg hasn't talked since page 6, and I know I'm town.

If I haven't done anything objectonable, why am I in the consideration for the 3rd spot? Seems unreasonable

You're in consideration for the third spot precisely because you haven't done anything objectionable. As I've said I think it would be good to get 3 town clears from it assuming that scum hit it early. I'm putting you on there because I think you have a reasonable chance of being town.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote damo

A sudden, unexplained flip onto Damo.

How novel.

[celaph]

Celaph are you scum agian?

[Jamiet99uk]

Bona seems very concerned about his image, yet he doesn't even seem to understand what people are saying about him.

Oddd.

[celaph]

Celaph are you scum agian?

I don't think he's scum

For the record I think this may actually be the first game you think I'm town early on.

You're also right once again. Impressive.

[celaph]

##vote damo

Care to explain why?

[Jamiet99uk]

Kgray pressed me repeatedly to explain in great detail my thoughts, my reads, my vote for Durga...

...and then just naked votes Damo.

Is this sarcasm?