MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

From the first post to the second, why did your characterization of celaph change from him being town for being the same as last game to him "consciously emulating last game", which seems to imply he could be scum trying to look like town?

Dammit bozo I was questioned about this at the time and I had an explanation for it.

[Bonatogether]

I'm pretty sure ghug knew I wouldn't get daykilled either way and was doing it to buddy me personally

I'm more interested in the EoD2 here though. The fact that the rest of the scum never consolidated on either Bona or Brain but instead the whole lot were all spread out despite the point you'd noted that the spare votes were always liable to slide for ghug makes me strongly suspect there were two scum wagons there.

wrong

Why did you immediately say HR's speculation that there were 2 scum wagon D2 was wrong, was there a reason you dismissed the possibility of ghug and brainbomb being scum?

I was dismissing the possibility of me being scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

I want competitive wagons, so I'm going to hold off on voting celaph for later.

I would start a worcej wagon because of my theory that if HB is scum (which turned out to be right), worcej is scum, but apparently some people think he townslipped. I'll try it tomorrow.

Did you read the part about worcej?
Why does that annoy you so much?
Why wait to vote for who you think is scum?
What will you try tomorrow?
I get the impression bona just wants to sheep someone and not get flak for starting a wagon.

I did, and I don't buy it. However, it appears to me that some people do, and so it will be extraordinarily difficult to start a wagon that will last for any significant length of time. I will start a worcej wagon tomorrow.

This is an awful explanation that reeks of n00b scum and both heavily implicates the increasingly absent Worcej if you are scum, and doesn't if you arent.

##VOTE BONATOGETHER

[Jamiet99uk]

Why did you immediately say HR's speculation that there were 2 scum wagon D2 was wrong, was there a reason you dismissed the possibility of ghug and brainbomb being scum?

I was dismissing the possibility of me being scum.

But what about Brainbomb? Brainbomb was scum.

[Bonatogether]

Did you read the part about worcej?
Why does that annoy you so much?
Why wait to vote for who you think is scum?
What will you try tomorrow?
I get the impression bona just wants to sheep someone and not get flak for starting a wagon.

I did, and I don't buy it. However, it appears to me that some people do, and so it will be extraordinarily difficult to start a wagon that will last for any significant length of time. I will start a worcej wagon tomorrow.

This is an awful explanation that reeks of n00b scum and both heavily implicates the increasingly absent Worcej if you are scum, and doesn't if you arent.

##VOTE BONATOGETHER

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[Bonatogether]

Why did you immediately say HR's speculation that there were 2 scum wagon D2 was wrong, was there a reason you dismissed the possibility of ghug and brainbomb being scum?

I was dismissing the possibility of me being scum.

But what about Brainbomb? Brainbomb was scum.

I was dismissing the possibility of me being scum.

[Chaqa]

I wonder if the cop has been unlucky with scans. It's odd to me they haven't put anything out at EoN yet.

[e.m.c^42]

I wonder if the cop has been unlucky with scans. It's odd to me they haven't put anything out at EoN yet.

Eh, or they could be tremendously assured like I that they would not be NK ;p

[e.m.c^42]

##vote bona since, well, answers weren't had.

[e.m.c^42]

Unless, you are truly channeling the spirit of Flavius, who as town decided Chaqa was a woman repeatedly after corrections otherwise :v

Chaqa isn't a woman?

Truly a mystery, with how alluring his pining soul must be, smeared with guac and chunks of chicken.

[e.m.c^42]

All of a sudden I'm struck with realisation that aaro and kgray are awfully reminiscent of each other in the greatest of ways.

Are you setting me up to mess up at final three? (Also I don’t think Kgrey is reading this but I don’t blame you for missing up there.)

Unrelated, you just made turn of logic and phrase that reminded me. Might be insight into how you'd play as scum, but we'd have to see a scum game from you first to compare, lmao.

[Bonatogether]

##vote bona since, well, answers weren't had.

You're only voting me because I'm voting you, and I gave you an answer.

[damo666]

I wonder if the cop has been unlucky with scans. It's odd to me they haven't put anything out at EoN yet.

Probably a combination of the following:

unlucky scans
no inno scans under any pressure
any guilty scan being strongly wagonned anyway

together with being highly confident of not being NK'd (which indicates somebody not being very strongly townread which suggests town will be in great shape post reveal).

As the doc didn't save last night there is a reasonably good chance they targeted the cop last night so the cop will be in danger tonight and I would be very surprised if we don't get a reveal tonight.

[e.m.c^42]

##vote bona since, well, answers weren't had.

You're only voting me because I'm voting you, and I gave you an answer.

You did not give an answer, actually. You took care to answer questions before and after but not that :D

For whatever reason are you insistent on "EMC be counterwagon"? There is absolutely nothing stopping you from voting worcej, considering the vote count would be exactly the same.

[Bonatogether]

For whatever reason are you insistent on "EMC be counterwagon"? There is absolutely nothing stopping you from voting worcej, considering the vote count would be exactly the same.

You're getting voted and have traction. Worcej doesn't, since my credibility has tanked.

[e.m.c^42]

I am voting you because you have enough of an inconsistency between your answers to give off impression that you are either 1) retroactively coming up with explanations for your behaviours - either as scum hiding genuine thoughts or as...flailing town in an effort to appear better than you are, or 2) high as ghug's ego.

[Bonatogether]

I am voting you because you have enough of an inconsistency between your answers to give off impression that you are either 1) retroactively coming up with explanations for your behaviours - either as scum hiding genuine thoughts or as...flailing town in an effort to appear better than you are, or 2) high as ghug's ego.

Which of my answers were inconsistent?

[e.m.c^42]

I am voting you because you have enough of an inconsistency between your answers to give off impression that you are either 1) retroactively coming up with explanations for your behaviours - either as scum hiding genuine thoughts or as...flailing town in an effort to appear better than you are, or 2) high as ghug's ego.

Which of my answers were inconsistent?

Lol kinda more inclined to believe bozo's than your explanation at the moment, since reading back, the issue isn't that you mixed up the two players - but rather what you used that as rationale for.

[damo666]

Calling Bona voters

If Bona is scum why on D2 when the brain wagon started to diminish didn't he switch to brain (or anyone else for that matter) thus sacrificing himself in favour of the power roles [and with any luck he might get a tie], that has to be better than staying on ghug surely?

[aarodactyl]

To be honest, Bona keeps looking scummier and scummier. I’m not convinced it’s them but they’re looking like a reasonable target at some point.

To be honest, I’m kind of curious and bozo and Donny. They’ve been making nice posts but they feel relatively absent at the same time.

Can you be more specific about what you mean by being "relatively absent"?

I know you’ve been posting a lot but I don’t remember it being helpful so far. This is way more true for Donny than you btw. Also I don’t scum read you or anything. I just have you two around null I think