Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[ghug]

##VOTE Bob

[ghug]

I think it's very unlikely Chaqa and Vecna are both scum.

[Chaqa]

I think it's very unlikely Chaqa and Vecna are both scum.

Me too

[rdrivera2005]

@Bob
@celaph

can you come here and vote for maniac please?

@Vecna
@Bona

would you change your vote to rd? Or if that's not possible, Vecna could you change your vote to celaph?

That way we would have 5 strong players all tied with 2 votes. Lets play a game of chicken and race those wagons into the direction of the cliff! Ohh, the wagonomics!

Why on Earth youy want a wagon on Maniac?

Also, why do you think having 5 different wagons in a small game is better for town?

[Maniac]

4 hours to go and voting is very close.

Things that interest me:
1 - quite a dew people are scum reading worcej but no one is voting for him
2 - Bona is voting for celaph, but apart from that there is no appetite to make him a wagon today (IMHO for good reasons)
3 - Bona is townreading both the lead wagons, Chaqa and ghug
4 - Bona voting for ghug early on whilst admitting he had no case against him is odd
5 - Chaqa seems resigned to being killed because he just hasn't put any effort into finding scum.

People I won't vote for today: Bob, Celaph, Kakarroto, Rdrivera,
People I would vote for: Chaqa, WorceJ
People I could vote for at a push: Ghug, vecna, Bona,
People I think are handsome: Maniac

[Chaqa]

4 hours to go and voting is very close.

Things that interest me:
1 - quite a dew people are scum reading worcej but no one is voting for him
2 - Bona is voting for celaph, but apart from that there is no appetite to make him a wagon today (IMHO for good reasons)
3 - Bona is townreading both the lead wagons, Chaqa and ghug
4 - Bona voting for ghug early on whilst admitting he had no case against him is odd
5 - Chaqa seems resigned to being killed because he just hasn't put any effort into finding scum.

People I won't vote for today: Bob, Celaph, Kakarroto, Rdrivera,
People I would vote for: Chaqa, WorceJ
People I could vote for at a push: Ghug, vecna, Bona,
People I think are handsome: Maniac

I subbed in out of the blue and my gf’s mom is in the hospital with COVID, so I’m not super invested. That said, I think I am doing more than nothing. I don’t scum hunt too much in general. I prefer to establish town reads and vote outside that group.

I proved myself quite capable of this in the Neighborhood game where I recruited 5 town and no scum.

[Chaqa]

Right now i would not vote for bona, Celaph, ghug.

Worcej or Rivera would be my preferences.

##vote rdrivera2005

[rdrivera2005]

4 hours to go and voting is very close.

Things that interest me:
1 - quite a dew people are scum reading worcej but no one is voting for him
2 - Bona is voting for celaph, but apart from that there is no appetite to make him a wagon today (IMHO for good reasons)
3 - Bona is townreading both the lead wagons, Chaqa and ghug
4 - Bona voting for ghug early on whilst admitting he had no case against him is odd
5 - Chaqa seems resigned to being killed because he just hasn't put any effort into finding scum.

People I won't vote for today: Bob, Celaph, Kakarroto, Rdrivera,
People I would vote for: Chaqa, WorceJ
People I could vote for at a push: Ghug, vecna, Bona,
People I think are handsome: Maniac

I don´t think people are scum reading Worcej. In my case I just don´t have any reason to townread him, so he is on my POE list. Vecna warning him about a flash wagon is what would probably happen at EOD if he doesn´t start to play actively.

Bona seems to be tunneling Celaph for no decent reason. I don´t remember scum Bona to be honest, but I have seen a lot of scum to tunnel just to avoid having to evolve reads (Bozo came to my mind). Another one that I won´t mind voting.

I am torn on Chaqa. I thought Jamiet´s reaction was natural with a rage quit, but after Brain told he was subbed against his will it´s just NAI.

[rdrivera2005]

Right now i would not vote for bona, Celaph, ghug.

Worcej or Rivera would be my preferences.

##vote rdrivera2005

Could you tell why or is just looking who has less posts?

[Chaqa]

Right now i would not vote for bona, Celaph, ghug.

Worcej or Rivera would be my preferences.

##vote rdrivera2005

Could you tell why or is just looking who has less posts?

No particularly strong reason. I’m not married to the vote

[worcej]

Scum are almost certainly going to wind up on my wagon. Keep that in mind.

Additionally, I'm realizing that scum probably wouldn't have second guessed bussing Fishtown at all, so probably we can't clear Bob, Maniac, or celaph.

Makes me think either Bob or Maniac is a busser.

Can I ask you why you think scum would wind up on your wagon?

I also struggle to see the willingness for Bob or Maniac to force a bus on Sharky when there were easy options to push at the time.

[worcej]

I'm bored. ##VOTE Vecna

The fact youre voting me, instead of even considering Bob - while you have stated plenty of time youre weirded out by things, just shows youre only looking for opportunities and give zero fucks about actually solving.

Yow'ch - that was a good counter punch right here!

[worcej]

why what?

Why do you townread Chaqa?

i'm leaning that way off of vibes. it's not final at all

How do you distinguish your townreads so that people can figure out where you stand then?

[Chaqa]

Scum are almost certainly going to wind up on my wagon. Keep that in mind.

Additionally, I'm realizing that scum probably wouldn't have second guessed bussing Fishtown at all, so probably we can't clear Bob, Maniac, or celaph.

Makes me think either Bob or Maniac is a busser.

Can I ask you why you think scum would wind up on your wagon?

I also struggle to see the willingness for Bob or Maniac to force a bus on Sharky when there were easy options to push at the time.

Jamie's outburst plus all the people already willing to vote me, my history as an easy miskill, and generally not having the town cred of others means I'm a perfect miskill that town and scum would both be on.

[Chaqa]

Why do you townread Chaqa?

i'm leaning that way off of vibes. it's not final at all

How do you distinguish your townreads so that people can figure out where you stand then?

Worcej, having watched this whole exchange, you're being dense.

Bona makes perfect sense.

Like me, you guys can never read him.

[worcej]

@worcej have you read the game up since weekend is over? Do you have any more ideas/questions/theories?

I posted a TL;DR already but I town Maniac, celaph, and yourself via VCA from D1. If any of you were scum, you could've easily just planted a vote on my slot and flipped me over bussing the shark.

Why am I on this list? I was definitely pushing you over lfischl towards the end. It's certainly a poor look to have missed that, though it doesn't come off as that scummy. I wouldn't expect scum to be looking to give out free town points.

You had the opportunity to stick on me yet didn't. If you want me to look at it the opposite way, that you jumped on Sharky right at the end because you couldn't coordinate a vote-move with your counterpart then let's go for it and find out.

##vote celaph

If you're scum, you're clearly scum with either Bob or rdr.

[Kakarroto]

@Bob
@celaph

can you come here and vote for maniac please?

@Vecna
@Bona

would you change your vote to rd? Or if that's not possible, Vecna could you change your vote to celaph?

That way we would have 5 strong players all tied with 2 votes. Lets play a game of chicken and race those wagons into the direction of the cliff! Ohh, the wagonomics!

Why on Earth youy want a wagon on Maniac?

Also, why do you think having 5 different wagons in a small game is better for town?

The thought behind it was, if we take the (probably) 5 strongest players and put them up against each other, put a time limit on it, we will then see how things develop and might catch a mafia with how the voting goes. I mean, that would be quite the juicy menu, don't you think?

Since we are on Day 2 and could use some gut reactions to see where people really stand and don't just talk about things. And also it would kinda fit the theme with the thread and the chicken game of wagons. But it looks like it's not going to happen anyway.

[worcej]

i'm leaning that way off of vibes. it's not final at all

How do you distinguish your townreads so that people can figure out where you stand then?

Worcej, having watched this whole exchange, you're being dense.

Bona makes perfect sense.

Like me, you guys can never read him.

Bona is actually easy to read, just hard to follow his logic.

[Kakarroto]

Also:

Reverse 666 post! Race with the Devil!!! *another guitar solo*

[worcej]

Also:

Reverse 666 post! Race with the Devil!!! *another guitar solo*

Sneaky devil you...