M1010 Mini-Mafia

[Jamiet99uk]

Actually I guess there is a possible answer to that question, Sarah, sorry.

I think I have been scum in about 25% of my games, roughly.

Brainbomb and I have been in a lot of games together.

Therefore Brainbomb will have correctly scum-read me about 25% of the time, and incorrectly about 75% of the time, very roughly.

Please note, however, it is relatively rare for him to consistently town-read or scum-read someone for an entire game. He changes his mind a lot.

Huh, good to know.......so there is a slight chance u might be scum this time...statistically speaking

Statistically speaking, on Day 1, unless you are scum yourself, Sarah, you must always assume there is a slight chance that any other player is scum. That's the point, isn't it? As town, the only alignment you know is your own. Scum, on the other hand, start the game knowing who the other scum are, and therefore, by a very simple process of elimination, they know that everyone not in their team is verifiably town.

That is why, when people like Brainbomb and BunnyGo declare, on Day 1, that various other people are 100% town, or 100% scum then either:

a) They are deliberately exaggerating, or
b) They are foolishly over-confident in their own abilities, or
c) They are scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

I hope EMC is accidentally delayed at EoD, or spends too much time finishing his jelly and ice cream, or isn't allowed to leave the table by his mom, and therefore gets replaced out.

I'm sick to the back teeth of his pathological fear of voting.

[damo666]

Actually I guess there is a possible answer to that question, Sarah, sorry.

I think I have been scum in about 25% of my games, roughly.

Brainbomb and I have been in a lot of games together.

Therefore Brainbomb will have correctly scum-read me about 25% of the time, and incorrectly about 75% of the time, very roughly.

Please note, however, it is relatively rare for him to consistently town-read or scum-read someone for an entire game. He changes his mind a lot.

Huh, good to know.......so there is a slight chance u might be scum this time...statistically speaking

What chance given the knowledge you have?

[SarahK24]

Actually I guess there is a possible answer to that question, Sarah, sorry.

I think I have been scum in about 25% of my games, roughly.

Brainbomb and I have been in a lot of games together.

Therefore Brainbomb will have correctly scum-read me about 25% of the time, and incorrectly about 75% of the time, very roughly.

Please note, however, it is relatively rare for him to consistently town-read or scum-read someone for an entire game. He changes his mind a lot.

Huh, good to know.......so there is a slight chance u might be scum this time...statistically speaking

What chance given the knowledge you have?

All I'm saying is that eventually you have to be scum again....
I wouldn't rule you out until I am sure...

[SarahK24]

Actually I guess there is a possible answer to that question, Sarah, sorry.

I think I have been scum in about 25% of my games, roughly.

Brainbomb and I have been in a lot of games together.

Therefore Brainbomb will have correctly scum-read me about 25% of the time, and incorrectly about 75% of the time, very roughly.

Please note, however, it is relatively rare for him to consistently town-read or scum-read someone for an entire game. He changes his mind a lot.

Huh, good to know.......so there is a slight chance u might be scum this time...statistically speaking

Statistically speaking, on Day 1, unless you are scum yourself, Sarah, you must always assume there is a slight chance that any other player is scum. That's the point, isn't it? As town, the only alignment you know is your own. Scum, on the other hand, start the game knowing who the other scum are, and therefore, by a very simple process of elimination, they know that everyone not in their team is verifiably town.

That is why, when people like Brainbomb and BunnyGo declare, on Day 1, that various other people are 100% town, or 100% scum then either:

a) They are deliberately exaggerating, or
b) They are foolishly over-confident in their own abilities, or
c) They are scum.

Good to know
Thx

[damo666]

Huh, good to know.......so there is a slight chance u might be scum this time...statistically speaking

What chance given the knowledge you have?

All I'm saying is that eventually you have to be scum again....
I wouldn't rule you out until I am sure...

Dou know whether Jamie is scum or not?

[Foxcastle]

People are pinning a lot on whether Bozo did a survey... I think his surveys are actually a fairly new thing, aren't they? Also, he's done them as both scum and town, and Brain beat him to the punch on asking everybody to respond to his question.

[SarahK24]

What chance given the knowledge you have?

All I'm saying is that eventually you have to be scum again....
I wouldn't rule you out until I am sure...

Dou know whether Jamie is scum or not?

Saying yes or no for sure would tell what I am, wouldn't it?

[Jamiet99uk]

What chance given the knowledge you have?

All I'm saying is that eventually you have to be scum again....
I wouldn't rule you out until I am sure...

Dou know whether Jamie is scum or not?

Dude she literally just said she wasn't sure.

[SarahK24]

What chance given the knowledge you have?

All I'm saying is that eventually you have to be scum again....
I wouldn't rule you out until I am sure...

Dou know whether Jamie is scum or not?

But I wouldn't rule him out lol

[SarahK24]

All I'm saying is that eventually you have to be scum again....
I wouldn't rule you out until I am sure...

Dou know whether Jamie is scum or not?

Dude she literally just said she wasn't sure.

Yeah, idk...yet

[bo_sox48]

So, first of all, Bo_Sox, was your "I don't like this game, I don't care if the GM replaces me, waa waa waa" post some kind of super-shitty reaction test, or were you really being an enormous stupid crybaby?

Neither. There is a reaction test component to it, but that's not really the aim. It was a good way to throw off the predictable path things were about to go down, which was I come in and say "woah woah woah Sarah I don't know you what are you doing" and try to distance myself, at which point in time everyone says "woah woah woah bo is trying to distance himself." Keeping things predictable and easy is not the way I like to play. I'd rather make the scum team decide whether or not it is worth speaking out on something (and judging their reactions) or keeping quiet entirely as opposed to giving them something obvious that they saw coming.

As for my vote for Foxcastle it was nothing to do with you, and entirely due to Foxcastle's absurd "I am scum" postings which, even if it's some kind of double bluff which I think it could be, it's an enormously disrespectful and distasteful insult to everyone else and completely against the spirit of the game. Either way I think it's possible he is a goon trying the "too scum for scum" card which, as I believe Rdrivera has pointed out, Ghug did previously use as a real play.

Pretty much everything you say is enormously disrespectful and a distasteful insult to someone, so you're being a hypocrite, but I see your point.

[bo_sox48]

Good old Jamie v Brainbomb war

Is it a war or is it theatrics?

[bo_sox48]

@Foxcastle: And Bo_Sox? Do you still think he is scum?

Do you mean town-Fox or confessed-scum-Fox? They're in superposition at the moment.

But town-Fox was thinking Bo was looking reasonably townie before he voted me for no reason. Afterwards, he claimed it was a gut feeling that I might have something "up my sleeve" and I am not even sure what that could mean on Day 1. (Maybe he meant that phrase to mean "hiding something" or "being sneaky" more generally, but I interpreted it as "has a specific plan" or "is setting up a ploy" or something.)

All those phrases are interchangeable to me.

[bo_sox48]

I am also going to ##VOTE BO_SOX

For a number of reasons.

One because his "reaction test" explanation looks like he made it up after the fact.

Two because as I previously said I agree with Rdrivera that what he was actually doing, possibly at least, was trying to create some "too scum to be scum" wifom protection.

Three because BunnyGo also looks pretty scummy right now, and his apparently certain declaration that Bo is some kind of locktown really jarred with me.

Four, because I think the fact that he has now *twice* attempted to use the GM to support his claims / schemes / explanations / crybaby tantrums, in a way the GM obviously can't confirm or deny, is really fucking shitty. The first time was bad and I called him for it, and then when he "explained" his "reaction test" he went and did it again.

Five

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Seven.

Do you have any thoughts that actually have to do with my alignment in this game right here and right now that someone else didn't come up with for you?

[xorxes]

@ Worcej
@ EMC

I see that you are the two remaining non-voters.

EMC, I hope you're not going back to your old ways.
Worcej, do you feel like casting a vote?

You can't go back to somewhere you have never left.

I don't remember worcej being this vote-shy though.

What do you define as vote-shy? Not casting a vote early or infrequently?

I was thinking early, given you were the only one (besides emc) who had not voted yet.

[brainbomb]

##Vote bunnygo

[BunnyGo]

##Vote bunnygo

Any reason? Or do you just like tunneling on surface level stuff too? (See: kgray for primary unrepentant example)

[bo_sox48]

bo - How is it town motivated? If real, it strongly suggests scum. If fake, why suddenly abandon it with nothing to show for it?

You of all people should be smart enough to understand that there is plenty more to gleam even after I "abandon it." There's a very pertinent reason why I didn't come out with any grand analysis in the 4-6 hour window that I left things open ended and am waiting to see what other chips may fall.

[xorxes]

Hmm. I guess you don’t trust what I’m saying. How have I given you doubt that I’m reading, rereading, and trying to listen to motivations?

You are obviously reading and rereading, what is not clear is where you're going with your questions.

Nobody has ever said I was good at this. I’m going in circles. But maybe I’m converging somewhere closer to the nirvana of mafia that Flum advocated.

I don't think Flum ever mentioned the word "nirvana" though. It's a word that has been mostly used by scum.