M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[dargorygel]

Do we really need to make Flav prove himself?

I think so, because mafia would not do it and it would always be a question. He will be much more valuable as a town clear. Also, if his claim if fake and he is mafia, we would have a strong reason to suspect damo.

Yeah... this seems like a win to me.
Sorry Flavius.
##VOTE FLAVIUS
I hope to be on close to EoD

[Vaporwave]

You guys can vote for Flav if you still feel susp, but I'll abstain

Will choose someone else or keep staying on Jamie

Also during night phase, I'll be a party thus me not posting at all should be NAI

[Vaporwave]

*at a party

so I'll party hard

[FlaviusAetius]

Do we really need to make Flav prove himself?

I think so, because mafia would not do it and it would always be a question. He will be much more valuable as a town clear. Also, if his claim if fake and he is mafia, we would have a strong reason to suspect damo.

Yeah... this seems like a win to me.
Sorry Flavius.
##VOTE FLAVIUS
I hope to be on close to EoD

This is the worse role I could possibly claim if Im Mafia or 3rd Party, so that a lone should prove I am not mafia at all.
Please vote Ezio, he doesnt even care and is letting everyone else but him defend his actions, he barely has more posts than emc...

[dargorygel]

You guys can vote for Flav if you still feel susp, but I'll abstain

Will choose someone else or keep staying on Jamie

Also during night phase, I'll be a party thus me not posting at all should be NAI

It's not a matter of suspicion. I believe him. But this is a way to a clear, that will either draw a NK away from a more powerful PR, or give us a clear. It is not, to me, that clears are 'better' than non clears. They won't necessarily be more right. But at least we can trust their motivation.
Really, this is the purpose of this role, it seems to me.
I sorta kinda wish he hadn't claimed, though. More info to analyze.
For instance, my move to flav doesn't really give any Alignment indication.

[FlaviusAetius]

You guys can vote for Flav if you still feel susp, but I'll abstain

Will choose someone else or keep staying on Jamie

Also during night phase, I'll be a party thus me not posting at all should be NAI

It's not a matter of suspicion. I believe him. But this is a way to a clear, that will either draw a NK away from a more powerful PR, or give us a clear. It is not, to me, that clears are 'better' than non clears. They won't necessarily be more right. But at least we can trust their motivation.
Really, this is the purpose of this role, it seems to me.
I sorta kinda wish he hadn't claimed, though. More info to analyze.
For instance, my move to flav doesn't really give any Alignment indication.

The mafia wont kill me at night, I can gurantee you that, literally every single other role is more useful than mine, I am just a tank, and that tank ability is basically erased now that I claimed, but I think its more important that I claim than a mislynch happens. Please dont let me my claim be in vain, it means its useless to what I did, more useless than I already have been

[Squigs44]

Yeah voting Flav makes way too much sense now. His breakdown of I'm the worst and it's all my fault looks like defeated mafia. Even if he is town, we go into tomorrow with a clear town (although having Flav as our town clear might not be the best)

##vote Flavius

[FlaviusAetius]

The best way to defend myself was to make a scum case on damo, but I didnt have one, cause he literally hasnt posted enough to make one, and I wont just randomly make a case that I dont believe in

[dargorygel]

The best way to defend myself was to make a scum case on damo, but I didnt have one, cause he literally hasnt posted enough to make one, and I wont just randomly make a case that I dont believe in

What are you worried about, Flav... you aren't going to die, right? You're giving town a confirmed clear.

[FlaviusAetius]

Yeah voting Flav makes way too much sense now. His breakdown of I'm the worst and it's all my fault looks like defeated mafia. Even if he is town, we go into tomorrow with a clear town (although having Flav as our town clear might not be the best)

##vote Flavius

If I was mafia why would I claim the worse role to prove, like the role I claimed, ASKS everyone to lynch me no matter what, it makes no sense
And also guys, just as a note, I am going to be in this game until the end because the mafia will save me for last, everyone else they can kill at night is better than killing me, and always will be

[Kitsune]

I believe him too.

And that’s why I’m not voting on him. Let the Mafia (or the Arsonist, or the Assassin) spend the extra time killing him if they need to.

I’m certainly not going to help them.

[FlaviusAetius]

The best way to defend myself was to make a scum case on damo, but I didnt have one, cause he literally hasnt posted enough to make one, and I wont just randomly make a case that I dont believe in

What are you worried about, Flav... you aren't going to die, right? You're giving town a confirmed clear.

Its more important to lynch someone than to mislynch, no? Thats whats going to happen here, and nothing will be solved, you even admitted nothing will be solved, its useless to lynch me

[dargorygel]

Yeah voting Flav makes way too much sense now. His breakdown of I'm the worst and it's all my fault looks like defeated mafia. Even if he is town, we go into tomorrow with a clear town (although having Flav as our town clear might not be the best)

##vote Flavius

If I was mafia why would I claim the worse role to prove, like the role I claimed, ASKS everyone to lynch me no matter what, it makes no sense
And also guys, just as a note, I am going to be in this game until the end because the mafia will save me for last, everyone else they can kill at night is better than killing me, and always will be

Then take this as a statement that we believe you will win for us in the end. Read carefully, Flav.

[dargorygel]

IF we had a surer scumlynch, I would move there. But a clear on D1 is a good thing.

[FlaviusAetius]

IF we had a surer scumlynch, I would move there. But a clear on D1 is a good thing.

What were your thoughts on Ezio again?

[Squigs44]

Yeah voting Flav makes way too much sense now. His breakdown of I'm the worst and it's all my fault looks like defeated mafia. Even if he is town, we go into tomorrow with a clear town (although having Flav as our town clear might not be the best)

##vote Flavius

If I was mafia why would I claim the worse role to prove, like the role I claimed, ASKS everyone to lynch me no matter what, it makes no sense
And also guys, just as a note, I am going to be in this game until the end because the mafia will save me for last, everyone else they can kill at night is better than killing me, and always will be

Well, if you are mafia, you wouldn't be able to claim your actual role. If your fake role was Naruto runner, then you would probably want to play it safe and claim that role. Also, you could claim Naruto runner and then say "why would I claim this role?" Its WIFOM.

[FlaviusAetius]

If that’s true then why was I leading advocate against mass claim in all its forms? If my fake role was Naruto Runner I’d be the #1 advocate for a mass claim, and yet I wasn’t and still not

[Squigs44]

The best way to defend myself was to make a scum case on damo, but I didnt have one, cause he literally hasnt posted enough to make one, and I wont just randomly make a case that I dont believe in

What are you worried about, Flav... you aren't going to die, right? You're giving town a confirmed clear.

Its more important to lynch someone than to mislynch, no? Thats whats going to happen here, and nothing will be solved, you even admitted nothing will be solved, its useless to lynch me

Neither lynching scum nor having a town clear is useless.

[Squigs44]

If that’s true then why was I leading advocate against mass claim in all its forms? If my fake role was Naruto Runner I’d be the #1 advocate for a mass claim, and yet I wasn’t and still not

Your stance on a mass claim shouldn't change based on what your individual role is unless you are mafia...

[dargorygel]

I thought he was doing an elaborate, but mis-guided plan. I was wrong, at least as he disccribed it.

I see him as regular townie Ezio. Somewhat withdrawn, and lets us see the tip of his iceberg. That might seem scummy to you, and in the past I HAVE voted for Ezio a lot just for that 'feeling.' And I've always been wrong.

His silence, and lack of interaction at this point, is not alignment indicative. It's just Ezio.