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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:12 pm
by rdrivera2005
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:24 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:03 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:02 pm
Or both scum Sweet and scum Bona voted at last minute to save scum Kak.
In this case I am wrong about HB and Kak had just pocketed me all game long. It´s possible, but I steel don´t feel it.
Perhaps you could…actually…you know…VOTE?!
Sorry, I thought I had voted.
##vote Hamilton
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:29 pm
by Hamilton Brian
Big mistake. You all really should be following Vecna.
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:31 pm
by BunnyGo
Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:29 pm
Big mistake. You all really should be following Vecna.
You're not wrong, but I wanted to see how everyone votes first. I will be around NEAR EOD but dealing with kids, and AT EOD itself I'll be jumping in a car, so might miss the last 10 minutes.
That said...our EODs have been slow as anything.
##vote bona
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 pm
by BunnyGo
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:31 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:29 pm
Big mistake. You all really should be following Vecna.
You're not wrong, but I wanted to see how everyone votes first. I will be around NEAR EOD but dealing with kids, and AT EOD itself I'll be jumping in a car, so might miss the last 10 minutes.
That said...our EODs have been slow as anything.
##vote bona
Although...Vecna may be wrong...
##vote Hamilton
There's still time to see what's up.
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:42 pm
by sweetandcool
The annoying thing is, on top of Vecna possibly being wrong, that their PR claim is scary. If it is truthful, then their is the scary possibility of some Mafia counterclaiming. If they are lying, the real PR has to worry about counterclaiming because it would put them in danger and would guarantee their death next night, if we survive.
Regardless if anyone has the situation completely correctly read, I don't think we can go wrong with Ham.
At the very least, Bona wagon is bad, and it's the only counterwagon.
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:47 pm
by sweetandcool
Sorry, I'm going full paranoia mode, not I-scumread-Vecna-so-don't-believe-his-claim, mode.
Since Vecna wasn't under pressure, what profit did it give us? Normally it would be a townclear or scum would counterclaim and we would get scum today or tomorrow for sure. But in MILO I don't know if we can trust its possible benefits ):
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:49 pm
by Bonatogether
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:12 am
is scum really just happy lurking and letting us tear eachother apart for a last minute swoop?
It seems so silly, but...either that or bunny is putting in a killer performance this last day.
bunny to me is pretty clearly doing a hail mary run to get the speedkill he's always wanted
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:50 pm
by sweetandcool
And before anyone points the finger at me, yes I was pushing for a PR reveal for a while, and then I realized it was probably a bad idea.
Which you can kind of see if you look at some of my latest posts, but no, I wasn't explicit.
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:51 pm
by sweetandcool
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:49 pm
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:12 am
is scum really just happy lurking and letting us tear eachother apart for a last minute swoop?
It seems so silly, but...either that or bunny is putting in a killer performance this last day.
bunny to me is pretty clearly doing a hail mary run to get the speedkill he's always wanted
I thought that was me, but it looks like he is going for a Ham kill, though giving himself wiggleroom to switch to you.
But haven't I always been the speedkill he has wanted?
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:51 pm
by Bonatogether
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:37 am
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:08 am
I have a feeling this game will either end today, or be decided in a 3way between Rdr, bunny and Bona (where bunny will have a hard choice)
If it’s bona, that could explain why scum didn’t save worcej.
Your theory though has all 3 wolves voting different vanity wagons day 2. And letting Town get one move away from flipping to scum!bona…that seems unlikely?
if worcej isn't scum, why would scum save worcej at all? this is a bizarre claim
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:53 pm
by Bonatogether
Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:29 pm
Big mistake. You all really should be following Vecna.
vecna scumreads you too dope
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:53 pm
by Bonatogether
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:31 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:29 pm
Big mistake. You all really should be following Vecna.
You're not wrong, but I wanted to see how everyone votes first. I will be around NEAR EOD but dealing with kids, and AT EOD itself I'll be jumping in a car, so might miss the last 10 minutes.
That said...our EODs have been slow as anything.
##vote bona
heartbreaking
i thought you townread me? it was the game you had it right
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:54 pm
by Bonatogether
sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:42 pm
The annoying thing is, on top of Vecna possibly being wrong, that their PR claim is scary. If it is truthful, then their is the scary possibility of some Mafia counterclaiming. If they are lying, the real PR has to worry about counterclaiming because it would put them in danger and would guarantee their death next night, if we survive.
Regardless if anyone has the situation completely correctly read, I don't think we can go wrong with Ham.
At the very least, Bona wagon is bad, and it's the only counterwagon.
if there's no counterclaim, there's no reason to doubt. eod claims are suspect in the best of times, doubtlessly moreso at lylo
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:55 pm
by Bonatogether
sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:47 pm
Sorry, I'm going full paranoia mode, not I-scumread-Vecna-so-don't-believe-his-claim, mode.
Since Vecna wasn't under pressure, what profit did it give us? Normally it would be a townclear or scum would counterclaim and we would get scum today or tomorrow for sure. But in MILO I don't know if we can trust its possible benefits ):
are you counterclaiming?
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:57 pm
by Bonatogether
sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:51 pm
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:49 pm
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:12 am
is scum really just happy lurking and letting us tear eachother apart for a last minute swoop?
It seems so silly, but...either that or bunny is putting in a killer performance this last day.
bunny to me is pretty clearly doing a hail mary run to get the speedkill he's always wanted
I thought that was me, but it looks like he is going for a Ham kill, though giving himself wiggleroom to switch to you.
But haven't I always been the speedkill he has wanted?
in a sense. he's always pushed you, but never when it mattered, and not now at lylo. more generally he's always been pushing for a hammer or something of that nature, which would shut down and make us lose discussion time
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:58 pm
by sweetandcool
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:55 pm
sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:47 pm
Sorry, I'm going full paranoia mode, not I-scumread-Vecna-so-don't-believe-his-claim, mode.
Since Vecna wasn't under pressure, what profit did it give us? Normally it would be a townclear or scum would counterclaim and we would get scum today or tomorrow for sure. But in MILO I don't know if we can trust its possible benefits ):
are you counterclaiming?
I wish
No, I'm not meaning to soft a PR, I am just VT.
So are you saying, Bona, that if Vecna is lying, that the real PR should counterclaim?
I'm unsure if that is the best thing to do, unless Vecna is clearly leading the town down a dark path.
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:04 pm
by Bonatogether
sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:58 pm
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:55 pm
sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:47 pm
Sorry, I'm going full paranoia mode, not I-scumread-Vecna-so-don't-believe-his-claim, mode.
Since Vecna wasn't under pressure, what profit did it give us? Normally it would be a townclear or scum would counterclaim and we would get scum today or tomorrow for sure. But in MILO I don't know if we can trust its possible benefits ):
are you counterclaiming?
I wish
No, I'm not meaning to soft a PR, I am just VT.
So are you saying, Bona, that if Vecna is lying, that the real PR should counterclaim?
I'm unsure if that is the best thing to do, unless Vecna is clearly leading the town down a dark path.
a false clear is death in this situation. undoubtably all cards should be on the table
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:05 pm
by sweetandcool
Bona, we really need to consolidate as town. I think you said you weren't going to be here EoD?
Given the current wagons, I don't think we're going to vote Bunny today.
Could you move over to Ham? Or are you thinking they are town?
If we get scum today, we may well have time to vote Bunny later (given that Bunny is actually Mafia, which I currently don't quite believe).
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:08 pm
by BunnyGo
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:37 am
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:08 am
I have a feeling this game will either end today, or be decided in a 3way between Rdr, bunny and Bona (where bunny will have a hard choice)
If it’s bona, that could explain why scum didn’t save worcej.
Your theory though has all 3 wolves voting different vanity wagons day 2. And letting Town get one move away from flipping to scum!bona…that seems unlikely?
if worcej isn't scum, why would scum save worcej at all? this is a bizarre claim
I posted about this before. In short:
worcej had posted not at all.
killing a DIFFERENT town would leave worcej a VERY easy miskill the final day.
Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:09 pm
by Bonatogether
sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:05 pm
Bona, we really need to consolidate as town. I think you said you weren't going to be here EoD?
Given the current wagons, I don't think we're going to vote Bunny today.
Could you move over to Ham? Or are you thinking they are town?
If we get scum today, we may well have time to vote Bunny later (given that Bunny is actually Mafia, which I currently don't quite believe).
i don't believe i said that, but i will be cutting it close, as it happens
if i move over to ham, he'll have 5 votes out of a 4 person town, which smells real fishy to me.