M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[ghug]

Counter argument: what would you expect scum Balki to do last night? Town as a whole seemed to be wanting Maniac, Bona, and Balki dead next in some order or another. What better time is there for a Hail Mary than 1v11 while not being much of a deep threat?

Probably something to make him appear town. It's not a horrible play as either alignment. I don't tend to like analyzing behavior once there's one scum left, as incentives converge. I think it's better to look at previous days.

Celaph, do you remember when we played Diplomacy together?

Also, I agree with your point that incentives with 1 scum left are harder to account for. I just didn't like Tom's point that scum Balki has no motivation to do this.

Yeah I'm agreeing with you.

[Chaqa]

If I'm missing some big-brain play, let me know, but isn't leaving the HR/Balki thing for later just setting us up for a bigger risk later? If we flip one of them now, and we hit the Priest, we've probably caught final scum in the other. And if we hit scum, we win. If we hit a VT, it forces the mafia's hand to kill them.

I do tend to agree they're both town, but I also think we could be risking a bad situation later by assuming that is true and ignoring it?

[Chaqa]

If I'm missing some big-brain play, let me know, but isn't leaving the HR/Balki thing for later just setting us up for a bigger risk later? If we flip one of them now, and we hit the Priest, we've probably caught final scum in the other. And if we hit scum, we win. If we hit a VT, it forces the mafia's hand to kill the actual Priest.

I do tend to agree they're both town, but I also think we could be risking a bad situation later by assuming that is true and ignoring it?

See clarification above

[bozotheclown]

If I'm missing some big-brain play, let me know, but isn't leaving the HR/Balki thing for later just setting us up for a bigger risk later? If we flip one of them now, and we hit the Priest, we've probably caught final scum in the other. And if we hit scum, we win. If we hit a VT, it forces the mafia's hand to kill them.

I do tend to agree they're both town, but I also think we could be risking a bad situation later by assuming that is true and ignoring it?

Right now, HR is an unCCed PR claimant, so there is no reason to vote for him.

[Chaqa]

If I'm missing some big-brain play, let me know, but isn't leaving the HR/Balki thing for later just setting us up for a bigger risk later? If we flip one of them now, and we hit the Priest, we've probably caught final scum in the other. And if we hit scum, we win. If we hit a VT, it forces the mafia's hand to kill them.

I do tend to agree they're both town, but I also think we could be risking a bad situation later by assuming that is true and ignoring it?

Right now, HR is an unCCed PR claimant, so there is no reason to vote for him.

Uhhhh.... what? Balki literally just CC'd him.

[Chaqa]

And the time to come out and CC him is certainly not at night....

I’ll bet you’re one of those people who stands on an empty street corner, waiting for the walk sign to flash.

I know this was said awhile ago, but I thought it was funny and was also confused as to why waiting for the "WALK signal" is a bad thing.

[Chaqa]

I'm torn on this because if BOTH HR and Balki are town, we don't want to waste potentially two days resolving it, but if one of them is scum, we don't want to prolong the question as we might get to an endgame of HR, Balki, and a third person and have a real confusing endgame.

[bozotheclown]

While I still think it is suspicious Chaqa chose to sleep over finding out why everyone was making jailer claims, Maniac was also late to respond to Durga's test.

I also think Maniac's cop crumb did not seem like something intended to draw a NK since I do not think anyone was likely to pick up on it.

damo's vote for Maniac D1 could have been placed so that he would end up on a scum wagon, and there was little chance of Maniac being the DK at the time of damo's vote.

Jamie pushed for a Maniac DK D2, but he did not start until Hamilton was a large wagon, so that could have been keeping with the scum bussing.

rdrivera voted for Maniac D1 and was still scum reading him N1.

##VOTE Maniac

[bozotheclown]

If I'm missing some big-brain play, let me know, but isn't leaving the HR/Balki thing for later just setting us up for a bigger risk later? If we flip one of them now, and we hit the Priest, we've probably caught final scum in the other. And if we hit scum, we win. If we hit a VT, it forces the mafia's hand to kill them.

I do tend to agree they're both town, but I also think we could be risking a bad situation later by assuming that is true and ignoring it?

Right now, HR is an unCCed PR claimant, so there is no reason to vote for him.

Uhhhh.... what? Balki literally just CC'd him.

I actually think HR is a VT, so I retract.

##vote Maniac

[bozotheclown]

I keep going back and forth on Maniac and Bona.

##Vote Bonaventure
just to keep it competitive.

I don't see the point in keeping the vote close when there is only one scum left.

[Chaqa]

Right now, HR is an unCCed PR claimant, so there is no reason to vote for him.

Uhhhh.... what? Balki literally just CC'd him.

I actually think HR is a VT, so I retract.

##vote Maniac

I took that to mean that he retracted his desire to vote HR, not his claim itself. Did I misunderstand? @Balki

[Tom Bombadil]

And the time to come out and CC him is certainly not at night....

I’ll bet you’re one of those people who stands on an empty street corner, waiting for the walk sign to flash.

I know this was said awhile ago, but I thought it was funny and was also confused as to why waiting for the "WALK signal" is a bad thing.

Balki’s zingers have an eloquence that is far above us mere mortals.

[Fluminator]

I keep going back and forth on Maniac and Bona.

##Vote Bonaventure
just to keep it competitive.

I don't see the point in keeping the vote close when there is only one scum left.

Because it's more fun for bona

[Fluminator]

Plus I think Maniac actually is the cop

[Tom Bombadil]

I totally see the validity of the “balky would have to try something wacky because he was in the POE line of fire argument” but I still townread him.

1) I think he would have been more active if his team was struggling.
2) Bunny’s vote on him D2 to make him an even more viable wagon would be strange if Balki was indeed scum.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Uhhhh.... what? Balki literally just CC'd him.

I actually think HR is a VT, so I retract.

##vote Maniac

I took that to mean that he retracted his desire to vote HR, not his claim itself. Did I misunderstand? @Balki

If needed, I can and will prove my role beyond any doubt. If I can't, send me to my death. I don't believe we need to resolve this now.

[Chaqa]

I took that to mean that he retracted his desire to vote HR, not his claim itself. Did I misunderstand? @Balki

If needed, I can and will prove my role beyond any doubt. If I can't, send me to my death. I don't believe we need to resolve this now.

I think we should sort it out sooner than later. Are you THAT confident both you and HR are town?

[Balki Bartokomous]

I took that to mean that he retracted his desire to vote HR, not his claim itself. Did I misunderstand? @Balki

If needed, I can and will prove my role beyond any doubt. If I can't, send me to my death. I don't believe we need to resolve this now.

I think we should sort it out sooner than later. Are you THAT confident both you and HR are town?

I think that if we miss on a couple of day kills, the night kills will help us quite a bit. Patience.

[kgray]

While I still think it is suspicious Chaqa chose to sleep over finding out why everyone was making jailer claims, Maniac was also late to respond to Durga's test.

I also think Maniac's cop crumb did not seem like something intended to draw a NK since I do not think anyone was likely to pick up on it.

damo's vote for Maniac D1 could have been placed so that he would end up on a scum wagon, and there was little chance of Maniac being the DK at the time of damo's vote.

Jamie pushed for a Maniac DK D2, but he did not start until Hamilton was a large wagon, so that could have been keeping with the scum bussing.

rdrivera voted for Maniac D1 and was still scum reading him N1.

##VOTE Maniac

lol okay but bozo, it was like 2:30 am for Chaqa and given his participation levels in this game it would have been a lot more suspicious if he'd actually stuck around and made his response look good.

Also we've had this discussion about fake crumbs before and as far as I remember it's always been town that did that.

[kgray]

Also I'd love to hear some reasons why people think HR is town.