MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

reading him over again
mfw

Why would this be useful?

because he's a known town? wdym

Known town don't know anything more than anyone else? He was killed by another townie? This is first grade shit.

[Bonatogether]

Why would this be useful?

because he's a known town? wdym

Explain to me like you’re young and know stuff and I’m old and dumb and senile what ugh expect to find

we can go back and look at all the interactions and reread them with the knowledge that it's town jimmy. a fair amount of it is jamie complaining about shitposting which doesn't tell us anything, but for a few interactions, that'll actually be useful.

also provides us with info on how other people were interpreting jamie

[Fluminator]

Ok Flum, you don't get to troll to avoid death anymore since we all know you're town now. People have forgotten that you're actually good at the game at this point and I'm tired of defending you every game. Redeem yourself before you die.

I haven't trolled at all this game yet. I found a contradiction in Jamiet's posting and his response was to gaslight me that I was bad and a bad person and I didn't feel like dealing with it.
Like I said I should have just replaced out in hindsight, and it appears I am actually just genuinely bad at this game.

[Bonatogether]

Why would this be useful?

because he's a known town? wdym

Known town don't know anything more than anyone else? He was killed by another townie? This is first grade shit.

but like we can read other people with the knowledge that they're interacting with the distinctive person known as town jamie, and look at other people knowing they're giving reads on town jamie

[Bonatogether]

feel free to challenge me. my statement should have a noticablu flawed consideration.

dont be shy

Not shy. Asleep. and said the important thing. Not sure if it’s scummy or just you, but you approve of shot porting and less so if not.

Ducking phone autocorrects. Not gonna fix them.

What’s your opinion of swordsman?

My instinct is that the above post is scum?bunny trying to appear involved but generating a lot more smoke than heat.

[ghug]

Ok Flum, you don't get to troll to avoid death anymore since we all know you're town now. People have forgotten that you're actually good at the game at this point and I'm tired of defending you every game. Redeem yourself before you die.

I haven't trolled at all this game yet. I found a contradiction in Jamiet's posting and his response was to gaslight me that I was bad and a bad person and I didn't feel like dealing with it.
Like I said I should have just replaced out in hindsight, and it appears I am actually just genuinely bad at this game.

I don't even get what it is you think you saw, but arguing with you about it also isn't going to do any good.

[Bonatogether]

based on what exactly? I think in past games I've proven to be a pretty damn good hunter as town. Shitposting early, as dumb as it may seem to you, does generate actual useful tells that help create a town core and catch scum.

boat mannnn
this post is scummyyyyy

No it isn't.

[BunnyGo]

because he's a known town? wdym

Explain to me like you’re young and know stuff and I’m old and dumb and senile what ugh expect to find

we can go back and look at all the interactions and reread them with the knowledge that it's town jimmy. a fair amount of it is jamie complaining about shitposting which doesn't tell us anything, but for a few interactions, that'll actually be useful.

also provides us with info on how other people were interpreting jamie

At the end of the day, the only thing differentiating scum from town is knowledge. Nobody but Jamie knew he was cop. Nobody but Jamie and scum knew he was town. Jamie knew nothing but that he was cop.

[Bonatogether]

Rdrivera and Lfischl were scum together last game.
They won.

interesting. so how do you feel about this post by rivera then?

In isolation, it doesn't provoke any strong feelings.

[ghug]

because he's a known town? wdym

Known town don't know anything more than anyone else? He was killed by another townie? This is first grade shit.

but like we can read other people with the knowledge that they're interacting with the distinctive person known as town jamie, and look at other people knowing they're giving reads on town jamie

a) have at it if you want, I guess?
b) you can't see how people read him by reading his iso.

[Bonatogether]

Interesting that I have made no impression on you.

I am a charismatic and memorable individual noted for my sense of humour and occasionally short temper.

Feel free to ask me a question.

In your experience, who is trickier than others?

This is an interesting question, well done.

I would interpret "tricky" in the context of this game as "tricky to read". Someone who is tricky to read is harder to sort as town or scum. This tends to give them an advantage as scum (since people may misread them as town), and conversely a slight disadvantage when they are town (since they are more likely to be wrongly scumread).

People who fall into this category, in the present game, would include:

Me, Jamiet99uk: I am often mis-read, whatever my alignment. I can often get people to consider me obv-town when I am in fact Mafia, and quite often when I am town, I am mis-accused of being scummy. In particular I am relatively often accused of "faking" my town behaviour when, in fact, I am perfectly sincere. This is because the sincerity of a lot of my statements does not vary depending on alignment (only my motivation does).

Fluminator: Flum spends so much of his time trolling and being disingenuous that when he suffers from an occasional burst of honest sincerity, nobody can tell. He's a smart guy but he's hard to read. Certainly "tricky" as scum.

Ghug: Ghug, likewise, is difficult to read and tends not to have a terrifically different meta as town or scum, although I believe there are differences. Ghug can be very insightful as town, especially if he gets to the late game. As a result, Town!Ghug very rarely gets to the late game.

Bozotheclown: Playing against Scum!Bozo is like playing poker with a refrigerator.

And an honourable mention:

TheFlyingBoat: Poor old TFB suffers from what I might describe as "reverse trickyness", in the sense that a lot of people apparently find it almost impossible to consider that he might be town, even when he is town. People like Bona always scream that he is scummy even when he exhibits very mild scummy characteristics. This game is already a potentially good example of this with various people apparently strongly scumreading him for what appear to be very minor things. Now watch him get killed early, flip scum, and everyone pile on to me for "protecting my team mate".

Note that I am not saying I scumread any of these people in the current game.

I was merely answering the question.

plinkus

[Bonatogether]

Explain to me like you’re young and know stuff and I’m old and dumb and senile what ugh expect to find

we can go back and look at all the interactions and reread them with the knowledge that it's town jimmy. a fair amount of it is jamie complaining about shitposting which doesn't tell us anything, but for a few interactions, that'll actually be useful.

also provides us with info on how other people were interpreting jamie

At the end of the day, the only thing differentiating scum from town is knowledge. Nobody but Jamie knew he was cop. Nobody but Jamie and scum knew he was town. Jamie knew nothing but that he was cop.

did you read my post

[Bonatogether]

Known town don't know anything more than anyone else? He was killed by another townie? This is first grade shit.

but like we can read other people with the knowledge that they're interacting with the distinctive person known as town jamie, and look at other people knowing they're giving reads on town jamie

a) have at it if you want, I guess?
b) you can't see how people read him by reading his iso.

a) thank you, i am
b) search terms can't be linked to, i believe, which is why i didn't try

[ghug]

but like we can read other people with the knowledge that they're interacting with the distinctive person known as town jamie, and look at other people knowing they're giving reads on town jamie

a) have at it if you want, I guess?
b) you can't see how people read him by reading his iso.

a) thank you, i am
b) search terms can't be linked to, i believe, which is why i didn't try

Then don't be a bad influence. Iso considered harmful.

[Bonatogether]

a) have at it if you want, I guess?
b) you can't see how people read him by reading his iso.

a) thank you, i am
b) search terms can't be linked to, i believe, which is why i didn't try

Then don't be a bad influence. Iso considered harmful.

ghug considered nonpositive impact on the game

[Chaqa]

Wtf Flum you could have shot me and saved everyone some trouble

[Bonatogether]

I was originally deciding between Chaqa and Ifschil, but ghug's bizarre chainsaw made me submit it for you, if you're cop or doc, warn me now because worcej hasn't come online yet.

For me or for Jamie?

Jamie isn't cop or doc, so you can shoot him.

ghugslipping that you're in the gt

[Fluminator]

Bunny, do you have a scumread yet? Or is the Chaqa vote developed to being a real vote?

[Fluminator]

Wtf Flum you could have shot me and saved everyone some trouble

I would have loved to, it took all my willpower not to lol. Which is probably why I had none left when talking to Jamiet.
But I also have a slight town read on you unfortunately annoyingly enough

[Bonatogether]

what time is eod