M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Tom Bombadil]

To be clear, its possible Balki is scum and just trying something super risky. I just don't think that is the case. And I don't think he was showing any scum behavoir beforehand anyway.

[kgray]

I mean, mafia rules cleary state that you have to listen to a townclear no matter what right? Plus, I'm dying - so you need to listen more because it'd be super rude to go against the wishes of a dying person.

Like imagine your grandmother on her deathbed saying "whatever you do, don't shop at Walmart because they are unethical" and then the very next day you show up to her hospital bed with $400 worth of Walmart stuff. That'd be a real dick move.

So moral of the story. You have to listen to me. And we aren't wagoning Balki or HR.

I don't *have* to listen to you. If we followed the "townclears" yesterday we wouldn't have DK'd damo.

[Hellenic Riot]

My inclination is that Maniac is scum, the patterns for d1 all point toward that, and I don't think damo would have had to vote ND there: Damo was present at EoD, with his last post 3 minutes prior to the deadline. So Damo certainly *could* have changed if it proved necessary

[Hellenic Riot]

##vote Maniac

[Hellenic Riot]

Naturally I'd love it to be Flum so that I look a bit less moronic come the EoG, but I can't see beyond Maniac today after combing back over damo last night

[Tom Bombadil]

I mean, mafia rules cleary state that you have to listen to a townclear no matter what right? Plus, I'm dying - so you need to listen more because it'd be super rude to go against the wishes of a dying person.

Like imagine your grandmother on her deathbed saying "whatever you do, don't shop at Walmart because they are unethical" and then the very next day you show up to her hospital bed with $400 worth of Walmart stuff. That'd be a real dick move.

So moral of the story. You have to listen to me. And we aren't wagoning Balki or HR.

I don't *have* to listen to you. If we followed the "townclears" yesterday we wouldn't have DK'd damo.

pish posh. You are living in the past

(if you haven't gotten the gist yet, I wasn't opposed to voting damo ever but I will always sit out as a townclear in that situation so we have close wagons - and then I like to be the one to decide at the end. But yeah, you definitely convinced me to vote damo when I was on the fence at the end)

[kgray]

I mean, mafia rules cleary state that you have to listen to a townclear no matter what right? Plus, I'm dying - so you need to listen more because it'd be super rude to go against the wishes of a dying person.

Like imagine your grandmother on her deathbed saying "whatever you do, don't shop at Walmart because they are unethical" and then the very next day you show up to her hospital bed with $400 worth of Walmart stuff. That'd be a real dick move.

So moral of the story. You have to listen to me. And we aren't wagoning Balki or HR.

I don't *have* to listen to you. If we followed the "townclears" yesterday we wouldn't have DK'd damo.

I probably will listen to you, eventually, because I like you. But I don't have to.

[Fluminator]

I just really want HR to be scum so I'm angry at Balki getting my hopes up.

[Hellenic Riot]

There's no way kgray is scum, I really don't see any way for ghug to be scum, celaph literally oozed town at the EoD yesterday so unless he's the greatest scum actor we've ever seen I cannot believe it's him either. I don't see why on earth Bozo would have gone so heavily against Damo as his teammate. Chaqa's entire game is so massively town that the only way we can possibly hold anything against him is that he was right too often.

That leaves Flum, but I don't really see a Flum-Damo team

Bona, who I have nothing on from the first two days, but the way the celaph tunnel became so rock-solid when Damo was the competing wagon was a bit convenient


Or Maniac... Who looks awful D1, awful D5, and meh D3.

[kgray]

I just really want HR to be scum so I'm angry at Balki getting my hopes up.

tbh this is probably most of why I'm frustrated...

[Tom Bombadil]

I mean, mafia rules cleary state that you have to listen to a townclear no matter what right? Plus, I'm dying - so you need to listen more because it'd be super rude to go against the wishes of a dying person.

Like imagine your grandmother on her deathbed saying "whatever you do, don't shop at Walmart because they are unethical" and then the very next day you show up to her hospital bed with $400 worth of Walmart stuff. That'd be a real dick move.

So moral of the story. You have to listen to me. And we aren't wagoning Balki or HR.

I don't *have* to listen to you. If we followed the "townclears" yesterday we wouldn't have DK'd damo.

I probably will listen to you, eventually, because I like you. But I don't have to.

I mean, I'm mostly joking about townclears. Sheeping townclears typically gives very little information and allows scum to hide behind that reasoning. And townclears can be just as sucky as anyone else at finding scum. I just truly believe that HR and Balki are town, so I'd prefer them not to be wagons.

[Tom Bombadil]

There's no way kgray is scum, I really don't see any way for ghug to be scum, celaph literally oozed town at the EoD yesterday so unless he's the greatest scum actor we've ever seen I cannot believe it's him either. I don't see why on earth Bozo would have gone so heavily against Damo as his teammate. Chaqa's entire game is so massively town that the only way we can possibly hold anything against him is that he was right too often.

That leaves Flum, but I don't really see a Flum-Damo team

Bona, who I have nothing on from the first two days, but the way the celaph tunnel became so rock-solid when Damo was the competing wagon was a bit convenient


Or Maniac... Who looks awful D1, awful D5, and meh D3.

Agreed. Flum looks pretty good D1 and was important in getting damo. Seems unlikely he is scum

[aarodactyl]

I mean, mafia rules cleary state that you have to listen to a townclear no matter what right? Plus, I'm dying - so you need to listen more because it'd be super rude to go against the wishes of a dying person.

Like imagine your grandmother on her deathbed saying "whatever you do, don't shop at Walmart because they are unethical" and then the very next day you show up to her hospital bed with $400 worth of Walmart stuff. That'd be a real dick move.

So moral of the story. You have to listen to me. And we aren't wagoning Balki or HR.

So what you’re saying is to kill HR tomorrow once you’re dead and don’t have to watch

[ghug]

There's no way kgray is scum, I really don't see any way for ghug to be scum, celaph literally oozed town at the EoD yesterday so unless he's the greatest scum actor we've ever seen I cannot believe it's him either. I don't see why on earth Bozo would have gone so heavily against Damo as his teammate. Chaqa's entire game is so massively town that the only way we can possibly hold anything against him is that he was right too often.

That leaves Flum, but I don't really see a Flum-Damo team

Bona, who I have nothing on from the first two days, but the way the celaph tunnel became so rock-solid when Damo was the competing wagon was a bit convenient


Or Maniac... Who looks awful D1, awful D5, and meh D3.

This is pretty much where I'm at except bona is more obvtown than you.

[Tom Bombadil]

I mean, mafia rules cleary state that you have to listen to a townclear no matter what right? Plus, I'm dying - so you need to listen more because it'd be super rude to go against the wishes of a dying person.

Like imagine your grandmother on her deathbed saying "whatever you do, don't shop at Walmart because they are unethical" and then the very next day you show up to her hospital bed with $400 worth of Walmart stuff. That'd be a real dick move.

So moral of the story. You have to listen to me. And we aren't wagoning Balki or HR.

So what you’re saying is to kill HR tomorrow once you’re dead and don’t have to watch

Yeah, thats usually how it happens lol

[ghug]

There's no way kgray is scum, I really don't see any way for ghug to be scum, celaph literally oozed town at the EoD yesterday so unless he's the greatest scum actor we've ever seen I cannot believe it's him either. I don't see why on earth Bozo would have gone so heavily against Damo as his teammate. Chaqa's entire game is so massively town that the only way we can possibly hold anything against him is that he was right too often.

That leaves Flum, but I don't really see a Flum-Damo team

Bona, who I have nothing on from the first two days, but the way the celaph tunnel became so rock-solid when Damo was the competing wagon was a bit convenient


Or Maniac... Who looks awful D1, awful D5, and meh D3.

This is pretty much where I'm at except bona is more obvtown than you.

Oh, except you forgot aaro, who's probably scum if it's not Maniac.

[Hellenic Riot]

And even if I did dig backover D2 and feel like Flum was setting me up for a Damo scumflip, the scum have made so many mechanically garbage moves... BM lying, RB killing in a setup with no self-saves, RB killing when they had a Goon who was clearly not a deepthreat, not hooking Durga, killing Vecna over Tom when Vecna wasn't even especially widely townread... My opinion of Flum's scumplay isn't really low enough to pin that all on him anymore

[aarodactyl]

There's no way kgray is scum, I really don't see any way for ghug to be scum, celaph literally oozed town at the EoD yesterday so unless he's the greatest scum actor we've ever seen I cannot believe it's him either. I don't see why on earth Bozo would have gone so heavily against Damo as his teammate. Chaqa's entire game is so massively town that the only way we can possibly hold anything against him is that he was right too often.

That leaves Flum, but I don't really see a Flum-Damo team

Bona, who I have nothing on from the first two days, but the way the celaph tunnel became so rock-solid when Damo was the competing wagon was a bit convenient


Or Maniac... Who looks awful D1, awful D5, and meh D3.

I agree with maniac looking sus but you’re missing a few people in this list

[Hellenic Riot]

There's no way kgray is scum, I really don't see any way for ghug to be scum, celaph literally oozed town at the EoD yesterday so unless he's the greatest scum actor we've ever seen I cannot believe it's him either. I don't see why on earth Bozo would have gone so heavily against Damo as his teammate. Chaqa's entire game is so massively town that the only way we can possibly hold anything against him is that he was right too often.

That leaves Flum, but I don't really see a Flum-Damo team

Bona, who I have nothing on from the first two days, but the way the celaph tunnel became so rock-solid when Damo was the competing wagon was a bit convenient


Or Maniac... Who looks awful D1, awful D5, and meh D3.

This is pretty much where I'm at except bona is more obvtown than you.

Oh, except you forgot aaro, who's probably scum if it's not Maniac.

Oh, I did forget Aaro. I don't really see a case against him but the reasons to think he's town are somewhat weaker.

[kgray]

There's no way kgray is scum, I really don't see any way for ghug to be scum, celaph literally oozed town at the EoD yesterday so unless he's the greatest scum actor we've ever seen I cannot believe it's him either. I don't see why on earth Bozo would have gone so heavily against Damo as his teammate. Chaqa's entire game is so massively town that the only way we can possibly hold anything against him is that he was right too often.

That leaves Flum, but I don't really see a Flum-Damo team

Bona, who I have nothing on from the first two days, but the way the celaph tunnel became so rock-solid when Damo was the competing wagon was a bit convenient


Or Maniac... Who looks awful D1, awful D5, and meh D3.

Bona has been tunneling on celaph for most of the game. He was the first vote on him yesterday, and I think it's a lot more likely that damo's teammate jumped on the wagon opportunistically than that he started it.