M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#881 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:03 am

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Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:00 am
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How would we react to worcej being “saved” while not posting?

Would we never vote him later?

No…we’d screw up. All scum needed to do day 2 was get a non-worcej miskill and they’d win.
So…why didn’t they?
Option 1: Bona is wolf
Option 2: Scum were somehow locked on not moving? But Fox gave them a chance to with 2 minutes left and "ugh this is not good"

Option 3: Scum didn't think of it?

Option 4: Scum weren't around.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#882 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:03 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:01 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:00 am
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One of my town reads is voting me.

We lose if:

I’m right that bona is town and I cannot convince him to vote with me somewhere else

Or

I’m wrong and bona is a wolf and he convinces a single town to join him.

I’m pretty sure I’m right about him though. So. What should I do in YOUR esteemed opinion in such a situation?
Are you okay? It's starting to feel like you've been pushing me all game because you have some sort of problem with me.

And that was what has been baffling me. You've been pushing me all game, okay fine, but you're attitude has been borderline mean-spirited. And now while I've been trying to teamwork with players that were online, you come on and degrade me and push disunity. (Yes, I could be scum trying to mislead Kak and Bona, but still).

Bona scumreads you for it, while I've been trying to push past it. But this latest push by you is starting to push me away from being able to townread you.
I don't think I've been degrading you lately. Not since we agreed you should have PMd GM. I'm merely commenting on my mental model of you.

I'm trying to find the last town...and it's hard when you KEEP not saying what I expect you to say.
Then you must think me an arrogant piece of shit.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#883 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:04 am

Oh well, I suppose I can be at times excessively optimistic and self-confident.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#884 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:05 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:03 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:01 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:00 am


Are you okay? It's starting to feel like you've been pushing me all game because you have some sort of problem with me.

And that was what has been baffling me. You've been pushing me all game, okay fine, but you're attitude has been borderline mean-spirited. And now while I've been trying to teamwork with players that were online, you come on and degrade me and push disunity. (Yes, I could be scum trying to mislead Kak and Bona, but still).

Bona scumreads you for it, while I've been trying to push past it. But this latest push by you is starting to push me away from being able to townread you.
I don't think I've been degrading you lately. Not since we agreed you should have PMd GM. I'm merely commenting on my mental model of you.

I'm trying to find the last town...and it's hard when you KEEP not saying what I expect you to say.
Then you must think me an arrogant piece of shit.
Ah "esteemed opinion"?

Apologies, but what's so "baffling" about my posts?

If bona is scum, he's doing an excellent job of negging me.

If you're town, you've consciously changed your style of play between games. I cannot fathom why you would.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#885 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:08 am

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Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:04 am
Oh well, I suppose I can be at times excessively optimistic and self-confident.
If the scum team IS rdr, Vecna, Ham, then that's a tough team to crack. rdr and Vecna can play scum however they want.

Even if we catch Ham today, we have a long road to hoe.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#886 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:19 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:08 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:04 am
Oh well, I suppose I can be at times excessively optimistic and self-confident.
If the scum team IS rdr, Vecna, Ham, then that's a tough team to crack. rdr and Vecna can play scum however they want.

Even if we catch Ham today, we have a long road to hoe.
Oh yeah, I think we're absolutely doomed, especially how this day is turning out. And it's possible we have more Mafia powers to contend with.

I'm sorry to say that I have not consciously made an effort to change my style this game. Though I feel no reason to stress out about trying to emulate what people perceive as my town game (whatever that may be).

I've been lazy and haven't done any new analysis. But I'm convinced Ham is Mafia, by POE that rdr is Mafia, and I'm newly convinced Bona is Town. I've also firmly believed Bunny, Vecna, and Kak are town. Which means I've been wrong about somebody, and I think that must be Vecna or Kak.

Maybe Vecna's analysis was so good because of TMI? Idk, I think people were universally impressed by it, which is actually pretty odd.

Like, even in previous games where I was fairly widely townread and strongly too, I would still have one or two detractors. So everybody loving Vecna's analysis is actually pretty freaky.

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#887 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:28 am

I supposed Bunny could play try to game and End on me and rally. I think that would bring out the mafia. However, with it being 4-3, this is pretty much game over if that’s the way the vote goes.

There better be an airtight case as to why I’m the designated kill. I’d like to hear it and for it to be on the record as, “this was the argument that caused town to lose.”

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#888 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:29 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:08 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:04 am
Oh well, I suppose I can be at times excessively optimistic and self-confident.
If the scum team IS rdr, Vecna, Ham, then that's a tough team to crack. rdr and Vecna can play scum however they want.

Even if we catch Ham today, we have a long road to hoe.
You know, maybe you've really hit the head on the hammer.

It's possible that one of the players trying to solve is scum, but I think given how the game has gone, and some of the mutual suspicion being placed between town teammates, I think scum has gotten lazy.

Check out the bottom 3 posters. Lazy scum? I'm going to examine the game under the lense of them being the scumteam. We'll see if it makes sense.

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#889 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:30 am

And spare me the “you’re not townread, Brian.”

I am rarely ever ever universally townread. I’m an enigma and that is detrimental to town. I’m that case I would say, vote me since I am a distraction. But…there’s no space in this game for an error like so.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#890 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:38 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:30 am
And spare me the “you’re not townread, Brian.”

I am rarely ever ever universally townread. I’m an enigma and that is detrimental to town. I’m that case I would say, vote me since I am a distraction. But…there’s no space in this game for an error like so.
You're not townread, Ham.

:D

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#891 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:07 am

I am flummoxed.

I am stumped.

I am internally furious as this was the worst time for a game to start for me, but that shit is the breaks.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#892 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:19 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:07 am
I am flummoxed.

I am stumped.

I am internally furious as this was the worst time for a game to start for me, but that shit is the breaks.
Alright, let's suppose you are town. Then who the heck is Mafia???

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#893 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:36 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:19 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:07 am
I am flummoxed.

I am stumped.

I am internally furious as this was the worst time for a game to start for me, but that shit is the breaks.
Alright, let's suppose you are town. Then who the heck is Mafia???
Well, it said Ham was online. How odd, normally they actually are in the thread, not lurking or away.

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#894 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:52 am

where are ham and rdr's votes

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#895 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:06 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:52 am
where are ham and rdr's votes
There is a Mafia power that can obscure two votes. That must be where they went.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#896 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:32 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:06 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:52 am
where are ham and rdr's votes
There is a Mafia power that can obscure two votes. That must be where they went.
i had to think for a second on that one haha

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#897 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 am

Hmmm, I'm pretty sure I know why nobody has claimed a PR yet. I have a fairly good idea as to what the power is. I think I know who the PR is as well.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#898 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 am
Hmmm, I'm pretty sure I know why nobody has claimed a PR yet. I have a fairly good idea as to what the power is. I think I know who the PR is as well.
ooh ooh is it me

am i the pr

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#899 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:32 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:06 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:52 am
where are ham and rdr's votes
There is a Mafia power that can obscure two votes. That must be where they went.
i had to think for a second on that one haha
8-) 8-) 8-)

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#900 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:35 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 am
Hmmm, I'm pretty sure I know why nobody has claimed a PR yet. I have a fairly good idea as to what the power is. I think I know who the PR is as well.
ooh ooh is it me

am i the pr
If it is, I am going to respect your decision not to claim.

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