M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Fluminator]

I think I agree with ghug and Tom that Bunny bussing Balki day 2 would be weird. He just got finished bussing a previous partner, and usually scum feel safe to push a miskill after a bus. It's not normal to move from one successful bus to bussing another right away lol.

[Fluminator]

I think I'm narrowed down to Maniac/Bona/Damo. If anyone thinks one of those 3 are a bad idea, make your pitch to me lol.

[Maniac]

I think I'm narrowed down to Maniac/Bona/Damo. If anyone thinks one of those 3 are a bad idea, make your pitch to me lol.

I'm pretty sure miskilling me is a bad idea, but unless we hit perfect, perfect I'm kind of resigned to taking one for the team at some point.

[Fluminator]

Ok Maniac, good enough.
I don't want a runaway wagon on Damo

Lets do ##Vote Bona

[Fluminator]

Bonaventure, you're obviously a fan of these types of games (seeing you play among us)
What experience do you have with forum mafia before this?

[Chaqa]

I don't think he's scum, but there is some logic in DKing Maniac today so we have full knowledge of the alignments of all the major wagons of Days 1 and 2.

[Fluminator]

I'm looking through Bona's iso and ghug already asked him his experience day 1 lol.

[Fluminator]

Chaqa, what's your experience with bona's scumgame and towngame like in among us?

[Chaqa]

Chaqa, what's your experience with bona's scumgame and towngame like in among us?

Hmmm. It's a bit different than mafia, but basically he's a very quiet player due to the voice comms bit of the game. He talks softly and usually doesn't say a lot, but when he does speak up, it's usually crucial information (when he's town).

As imposter, he's pretty good. I don't recall any significantly awful or shocking games, but that's not unusual for me, and we play a LOT so they blend together.

I'm not really sure the two are super comparable due to the very different game styles. Among Us is more PoE, fact, and logic based compared to mafia.

[Fluminator]

O_O

That was a hell of a wagon.

Bona's post were pretty NAI up until here which seemed really fake to me. (This is right after the brain kill)

[Fluminator]

I forgot he went on walks every eod

[Chaqa]

When are you gonna come play with us, Flum?

Eden just joined the Discord we use and is gonna play once his finals are done. Durga is also in there but idk if she'll ever play with us lol. TrPrado used to play daily but I haven't seen him recently.

[Fluminator]

I think you guys are too good at the game for me. I just play casually where I enjoy trolling people and picking people to stalk and freak out.

[kgray]

Ok, but you have been reading. Thoughts about other players so far?

Initial townleans on Celaph, Brainbomb, Vecna, ND.

Initial scumreads on Fluminator and perhaps Worcej - I notice he's the top poster but goodness me the signal-to-noise ratio in his posts is low, which bothers me somewhat.

The Neph-Balki exchange seemed interesting to me too.

I assure you that when I read my role PM, it will say that I'm town. Let's just work on that assumption for now, at least.

Ohhhhhhh...don'tcha think Jamiet would mention a scumpartner in his first little rundown here? THat would be Celaph or Flum, from my point of view.

So you think he *had* read his role PM at this point, and was just pretending he hadn't?

[kgray]

and would love to hear who Bona thinks the scumteam is too.

Celaph: hasn't put out scumreads since n3, mostly (if not always) asks softballs, and all the other things I scumread him for earlier.

Flum: contradicted himself repeatedly. I laid this out earlier, but he went from scumreading HB (saying this twice over multiple days) to claiming that he had always obvtowned him. Also was a late hopper on the brain speed wagon.

Where did Flum say he always thought Hamilton was obvtown? Why do you think scum is more likely to switch between TvT wagons close to EOD?

[aarodactyl]

The chances of an arbitrary group of 4 survivors of day 1 all voting for a townsperson on both days 1 and 2 assuming random voting is roughly 1 in 9 (as previously shown). However scum vote with info so the chances of such a group being ALL TOWN is LESS THAN 1 in 9.

Now it just so happens that there is a group of 4 who voted town both days: this group is

ghug aaro kgray Maniac

I will be very surprised if there is not at least one scum in those four.

If I am miskilled today (you shouldn't) please consider this post.

I was right last time (Jamie was scum).

I was also right about HB and brain but that's different.

Isn't this based on the premise that the scum would only vote for town D1 and D2? Considering the amount of bussing we already know about D1 and D2, I would say any group we know voted for town D1 and D2 is less likely to include a scum than a random selection of 4 players.

Damo has been pushing this theory for a long time even though the math is bad and also the assumptions are bad as well

[Chaqa]

So, we have 13 players left, spread at 11-2.

If we get it wrong today, on D6 we'll be 9-2.

If we're wrong again, on D7 we'll be 7-2.

If we're wrong again, on D8 we'll be 5-2.

If we're wrong again, on D9 we'll be 3-2.

if we get it right somewhere in there, we get one additional DK.

I think of those four, two should be Bozo and Damo.

We have some leeway to flip Maniac if it will clear things up.

At least one newbie probably is scum.

Kinda where I'm at. Ghug or Kgray could be deep threats, I guess.

[kgray]

As i lie in bed waiting for sleep to take me, I've decided that basically everyone active tonight staying up late trying to solve the game is pretty solid town. It really felt like townies trying to solve a case and no one posturing.

This means
Ghug
Kgray
Chaqa
Aaro
Cephas
are all reasonably solid townreads.

My list of people I'll consider are:
Balki waa not quite there. Sorry Balki
Maniac
Bona
Bozo: (but he'd probably be my last choice in this group)
Damo

I'm rather curious how my name has become cephas in two of your recent messages.

Flum getting your name wrong is a rite of passage in webDip mafia.

[aarodactyl]

@bozo what you seem to be doing is having decided I'm the DK you proceed to backfit everything to indicate that I am the smuggler to justify your choice of DK.

That is is archetypal scumplay (although I don't think you are scum just a misguided tunneller).

You were already one of my top scum suspects, but then it turned out with Yoyoyozo flipping scum that you are the only possibility for smuggler if the smuggler gave their real targets, and I think there were good reasons for the smuggler to give their real targets. That is why I think you are the best option today, because if it turns out you are the smuggler, we know we have to DK ghug next.

I think your whole thought process is flawed on the "if you were jailer who would you visit" thing. You specifically said if you were jailer. If I were a town PR (or even a scum one) I would not have given my real visits. I would have given who I would have visited if I was the jailer.

I'm not sure if this weird logic is scummy or usual Bozo insanity.

Is it really possible that people dont understand why we compiled the who would you jail list? We knew Durga saw either the jailer or scum pr. We made this very clear several times. We also made it clear that we were making the list so Durga could see if the people she visited lied about their visits. If they didn’t lie, she wasn’t going to immediately out them. However if they lied, she was going to out them as scum. The point of that was to try to force scum pr to answer honestly or force being outed. It worked perfectly and we got bunny. The downside was it worked too well and worcej has time to get themself modkilled.

[kgray]

Of the 7 players that leaves both Bona and Flum are in the too wierd to be scum category.

What does this mean and why is Maniac not in that group?