MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

My N4 result not very illuminating. My target's vanilla/nonvanilla status as per their claim.

[Vecna]

Current claims/scans of remaining players.

Please advise if wrong or incomplete.

Bob claims Town PR discard Maf hider
Bona claims vt, discard goon
brain claims Mason, discard goon
Bunny claims Town PR, discard Maf RB
celaph claims Alien prober, discard goon
damo Vanilla cop, discard vt
DemonRHK claims Mason, discard town
Donny claims Town Lover, discard Enabler
emc claims ???, discard town, scanned non M by V
Ezio claims ??? , discard Town doc (retracted?), scanned by celaph, result not revealed
ghug claims vt, discard goon, scanned non maf by celaph, vanilla by D
HamB claims holds or discarded Town doc
Jasnah claims ?, discard Maf lover, scanned non Maf by V
kgray claims Mason
Maniac town PR, discard commuter, scanned non maf by V, non van by D
rdr claims Town PR, discard town, verified town by Masons (how?)
Vecna claims Town cop, discard vt

Fixed

For Vecna.

It was there.

eh, oh well

[Vecna]

kgray mason chat before dying:

Well, if she could talk now she would tell you that you're wrong so let's not kill Ezio.

then she would be killing you thats the only other person on her list
her poe on mason chat is
macca
celaph
ezio
bob
ghug

and thats relstively outdated but she thinks emc is a tracker and bunny is a clairvoyant.
we think jasnah is parrot

Your entire mason chat has not been paying a lot of attention lol. Its so obvious who is the actual parrot <3

[brainbomb]

I dont have a clue

[damo666]

But Ezio not mafia.

Also, I was RB'd (probably parrot or we have a scared maf underdog) so thanks to them no results today.

parrot wouldn't prevent your action, it would double it.

Who were you targeting?

It says that it causes my ability to be used on myself and addition to someone else. Unclear what order those would trigger in. All I know is that I was RB'd and got no result.

##call GM, if a parrot targets prober which charge of the prober would resolve first? The one I used or the one I self-targeted because of the parrot?

The implication here is you got a message to say you were roleblocked but still got a message giving you an inno result (yourself). Why would you be asking about the resolution order? Your story doesn't make sense and I don't believe it.

If you weren't roleblocked but parrotted you would get 2 results:

if different you would know which related to who

if the same you wouldn't know the order not that it would matter. I think this is the result you got and prompts your question.

To summarise I believe

A) you were not roleblocked
B) you were parrotted
C) you got an inno result on your target which doesn't suit your purposes so you are pretending to have been roleblocked in order to evade providing the result.

Who was your target?

[damo666]

I dont have a clue

I think I know too.

[brainbomb]

I dont have a clue

I think I know too.

good?

[damo666]

We are being too soft on the alien.

Exterminate.

[ghug]

kgray mason chat before dying:

Well, if she could talk now she would tell you that you're wrong so let's not kill Ezio.

then she would be killing you thats the only other person on her list
her poe on mason chat is
macca
celaph
ezio
bob
ghug

and thats relstively outdated but she thinks emc is a tracker and bunny is a clairvoyant.
we think jasnah is parrot

Stop telling people what you're going to believe before they claim.

[brainbomb]

reeeeee

[brainbomb]

Well, if she could talk now she would tell you that you're wrong so let's not kill Ezio.

then she would be killing you thats the only other person on her list
her poe on mason chat is
macca
celaph
ezio
bob
ghug

and thats relstively outdated but she thinks emc is a tracker and bunny is a clairvoyant.
we think jasnah is parrot

Stop telling people what you're going to believe before they claim.

We discarded stuff too mine was really goon
kgrays was
demonrhks was

[ghug]

parrot wouldn't prevent your action, it would double it.

Who were you targeting?

It says that it causes my ability to be used on myself and addition to someone else. Unclear what order those would trigger in. All I know is that I was RB'd and got no result.

##call GM, if a parrot targets prober which charge of the prober would resolve first? The one I used or the one I self-targeted because of the parrot?

The implication here is you got a message to say you were roleblocked but still got a message giving you an inno result (yourself). Why would you be asking about the resolution order? Your story doesn't make sense and I don't believe it.

If you weren't roleblocked but parrotted you would get 2 results:

if different you would know which related to who

if the same you wouldn't know the order not that it would matter. I think this is the result you got and prompts your question.

To summarise I believe

A) you were not roleblocked
B) you were parrotted
C) you got an inno result on your target which doesn't suit your purposes so you are pretending to have been roleblocked in order to evade providing the result.

Who was your target?

Why would he get two scans off if he were rolebocking himself?

[BunnyGo]

And if theres mafia remaining, I guess it has to be either HB/Bob or maybe ezio/ghug if celaph is naughty.

I'm fairly confident in both ezio's style of resisting the push yesterday/last night. I'm pretty sure he's town.

[celaph]

parrot wouldn't prevent your action, it would double it.

Who were you targeting?

It says that it causes my ability to be used on myself and addition to someone else. Unclear what order those would trigger in. All I know is that I was RB'd and got no result.

##call GM, if a parrot targets prober which charge of the prober would resolve first? The one I used or the one I self-targeted because of the parrot?

The implication here is you got a message to say you were roleblocked but still got a message giving you an inno result (yourself). Why would you be asking about the resolution order? Your story doesn't make sense and I don't believe it.

If you weren't roleblocked but parrotted you would get 2 results:

if different you would know which related to who

if the same you wouldn't know the order not that it would matter. I think this is the result you got and prompts your question.

To summarise I believe

A) you were not roleblocked
B) you were parrotted
C) you got an inno result on your target which doesn't suit your purposes so you are pretending to have been roleblocked in order to evade providing the result.

Who was your target?

I've already said who my target was, Bob.

If you weren't roleblocked but parrotted you would get 2 results

It's impossible for me to have been parroted, but not RB'd because if I was parroted I would RB myself. The question is assuming I'm parroted, when does my self-RB happen? Is it before or after I get my results on myself?

[BunnyGo]

kgray mason chat before dying:

Ezio - very very very probably maf

Does she know anything that I don't?

[BunnyGo]

Well, if she could talk now she would tell you that you're wrong so let's not kill Ezio.

then she would be killing you thats the only other person on her list
her poe on mason chat is
macca
celaph
ezio
bob
ghug

and thats relstively outdated but she thinks emc is a tracker and bunny is a clairvoyant.
we think jasnah is parrot

Your entire mason chat has not been paying a lot of attention lol. Its so obvious who is the actual parrot <3

[e.m.c^42]

I believe damo is likely correct in his theory, due to how Jamie answered kills resolving in the sign-up thread.

If the Parrot targets the Mafia player who is carrying out the NK, then yes, that is what would happen. Note that the Parrot creates an *extra* action and forces it to be self-targeted on the person they've targeted. So the original kill would also occur.

So here's a sample scenario:

Mafia are sending Macca the Mafia Goon to kill Brainbomb the Vanilla Townie.
Parrot targets Macca.

Result: Macca NKs both Brainbomb and themself.

(copy/paste quote instead of direct as thread is locked)

[e.m.c^42]

##vote celaph

[BunnyGo]

sigh...##vote celaph...

[BunnyGo]

@ghug, have you had fun figuring out my role yet?