M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Hellenic Riot]

##vote celaph choo.choo

You really find celaph the worse out of those two?

Bona is probably the third strongest townread I've had in this game, behind kgray and emc

Why? Aside from a game-long tunnel on celaph that's never been particularly explained, I really don't see what he's actually done... At all.

[ghug]

You really find celaph the worse out of those two?

Bona is probably the third strongest townread I've had in this game, behind kgray and emc

Why? Aside from a game-long tunnel on celaph that's never been particularly explained, I really don't see what he's actually done... At all.

He so regularly displays a deep lack of understanding of how scum would think.

[Chaqa]

Day 1 wagon spread is interesting.

Jamiet voted for ND.
teacon voed for Jamiet.
Yoyo voted for Bozo.
Bunny voted for teacon.

Two remaining scum... I feel like at least one has to be on ND, and another is on ND or is on a third wagon.

Seems to me scum was indifferent to Day 2 result given Bunny and Yoyo were both off main wagons.

Damo, Bona fit for the "indifferent day 2" archetype.

Possible scum D1 ND voters: ghug, aero, kgray
Possible scum D1 other (non-ND/non-teacon) wagon voters: celaph, damo, bozo, Bona

Bozo, Damo, Bona, Kgray, Ghug, Celaph, Aero as a group to work with.

[kgray]

Bozo does not look too great based on VCA. Reasoning:
1. Voted with Teacon for Jamiet Day 1
2. Voted for by Yoyo Day 1
3. Voted with Bunny on Day 2

Chaqa I’ll buy you chipotle if you go full-on bozo and over analyze VCA on bozo himself.

[Hellenic Riot]

Bona is probably the third strongest townread I've had in this game, behind kgray and emc

Why? Aside from a game-long tunnel on celaph that's never been particularly explained, I really don't see what he's actually done... At all.

He so regularly displays a deep lack of understanding of how scum would think.

His scum teammates would have contained Yoyoyozo, Jamiet99uk, BunnyGo, and teacon7.

Where do you think he'd be picking up a good understanding of scumplay?

[Chaqa]

Bozo does not look too great based on VCA. Reasoning:
1. Voted with Teacon for Jamiet Day 1
2. Voted for by Yoyo Day 1
3. Voted with Bunny on Day 2

Chaqa I’ll buy you chipotle if you go full-on bozo and over analyze VCA on bozo himself.

That post is the extent of the VCA i will be doing on Bozo.

I'm an Occam's Razor type guy. I hate being too wordy.

[kgray]

Bona is probably the third strongest townread I've had in this game, behind kgray and emc

Why? Aside from a game-long tunnel on celaph that's never been particularly explained, I really don't see what he's actually done... At all.

He so regularly displays a deep lack of understanding of how scum would think.

I feel like this point is somewhat negated my the fact that it’s his first game, so this could just be how he thinks as scum?

[Hellenic Riot]

I mean the most notable things Bona has done is to constantly jump in to ask why people scumread him... Which is hardly some massive towntell that noob scum would never do

[ghug]

Why? Aside from a game-long tunnel on celaph that's never been particularly explained, I really don't see what he's actually done... At all.

He so regularly displays a deep lack of understanding of how scum would think.

His scum teammates would have contained Yoyoyozo, Jamiet99uk, BunnyGo, and teacon7.

Where do you think he'd be picking up a good understanding of scumplay?

Jamie and Bunny are solid scum players. Teacon is something. Yoyo is not something.

[ghug]

Why? Aside from a game-long tunnel on celaph that's never been particularly explained, I really don't see what he's actually done... At all.

He so regularly displays a deep lack of understanding of how scum would think.

I feel like this point is somewhat negated my the fact that it’s his first game, so this could just be how he thinks as scum?

No

[Hellenic Riot]

He so regularly displays a deep lack of understanding of how scum would think.

His scum teammates would have contained Yoyoyozo, Jamiet99uk, BunnyGo, and teacon7.

Where do you think he'd be picking up a good understanding of scumplay?

Jamie and Bunny are solid scum players. Teacon is something. Yoyo is not something.

So solid that they both got guiltied in the first two nights in a 26 player game, failed to fish a single PR in the process, and sent the roleblocker to do the kills when they had a living goon?

[ghug]

Day 1 wagon spread is interesting.

Jamiet voted for ND.
teacon voed for Jamiet.
Yoyo voted for Bozo.
Bunny voted for teacon.

Two remaining scum... I feel like at least one has to be on ND, and another is on ND or is on a third wagon.

Seems to me scum was indifferent to Day 2 result given Bunny and Yoyo were both off main wagons.

Damo, Bona fit for the "indifferent day 2" archetype.

Possible scum D1 ND voters: ghug, aero, kgray
Possible scum D1 other (non-ND/non-teacon) wagon voters: celaph, damo, bozo, Bona

Bozo, Damo, Bona, Kgray, Ghug, Celaph, Aero as a group to work with.

Lmfao this pool is literally everyone you're not townreading for voting teacon or being Maniac.

[Hellenic Riot]

Not to mention that a team which spends the vast majority of its time aggressively bussing each other is not generally a very pleasant atmosphere to try and learn scumplay in...

[ghug]

His scum teammates would have contained Yoyoyozo, Jamiet99uk, BunnyGo, and teacon7.

Where do you think he'd be picking up a good understanding of scumplay?

Jamie and Bunny are solid scum players. Teacon is something. Yoyo is not something.

So solid that they both got guiltied in the first two nights in a 26 player game, failed to fish a single PR in the process, and sent the roleblocker to do the kills when they had a living goon?

Everyone gets fucked occasionally

[kgray]

He so regularly displays a deep lack of understanding of how scum would think.

I feel like this point is somewhat negated my the fact that it’s his first game, so this could just be how he thinks as scum?

No

I’ll rephrase:

This point is somewhat negated by the fact that it’s his first game, so this could just be how he thinks as scum.

[ghug]

I feel like this point is somewhat negated my the fact that it’s his first game, so this could just be how he thinks as scum?

No

I’ll rephrase:

This point is somewhat negated by the fact that it’s his first game, so this could just be how he thinks as scum.

I'll rephrase:

I get what you're saying, but I feel strongly that it is wrong.

[Hellenic Riot]

Isn't this the pretty much the same reason why you let therul go the whole game doing similar shit back in M57?

[kgray]

No

I’ll rephrase:

This point is somewhat negated by the fact that it’s his first game, so this could just be how he thinks as scum.

I'll rephrase:

I get what you're saying, but I feel strongly that it is wrong.

Sure, fair enough. Why have you refused to allow towntells from celaph and aaro influence your reads of them, despite agreeing with (or pointing out in the first place) that those things are towny?

[Fluminator]

My current thinking.

Ghug is being townie and active today and there's enough stuff where it's a little less likely he's scum imo.
I don't see a situation where it would be a good idea to daykill him right now with still a lot of miskills available. If you have one miskill or in lylo and he's still alive, definitely reconsider killing him.

Kgray is a townread, and I don't think anyone other than damo is seriously considering her as scum right now?

Damo is being more useless this game then when he was scum last game so maybe that's a sign he's town? I still have no idea how to read him. I'll sheep HR's read on him and say he's town.

Bozo is still a scumread based on performance, but would scum members bus/buddy him as much as they have? I did always wonder why he voted HB last minute, and that explanatino he gave made a lot of sense and something town Bozo would think. I still don't like how lazy he's been on his cases and play this game though.

Balki has been lazy, and I keep waiting for him to get to the Balki I'm used to. He's defended me and jumped onboard stuff I've been saying though so I don't want to daykill him lol. I'll have to look into Tom's bussing reasoning.

Maniac is scummy. Which is ironic because when I was complaining about scumreading everyone, Maniac wasn't in my head at that time. He honestly might be my ideal boot right now.

All 3 new players have played extraordinarily well regardless of alignment and I hope they stick around. Most games aren't this huge and messy lol.
With the buddying out of the way...

Bona definitely stood out by the amount of +1ing he did. He's +1ed a bunch of posts I made about players I considered kind of random (usually when I threw shade on people). It's weird. He's null

Cephas is definitely a quality over quantity type poster. I have an inclination to scumread those more since it's easier to fake as scum, but he really has done nothing all game that stood out to me, and he's made a lot of posts I agree with. New players are often really good scum on their first try, but I have no desire to kill him this round.

I remember townreading him for his interactions with Bunny. He seemed genuinely excited we caught scum in a non performative way which has been a tell that hasn't led me astray yet. It would probably be prudent of me to look a bit more though.

That's where I'm at right now.

[ghug]

Isn't this the pretty much the same reason why you let therul go the whole game doing similar shit back in M57?

I honestly don't remember anything about therul.

I definitely have a weakness for dumbscum (hi Tomato), but Bona isn't really dumb in the traditional sense. Townreading him because I can't imagine him being cocky enough to sit on the thread and +1 shit all day is that weakness. Townreading him for loudly proclaiming that scum orchestrated a daykill by all voting together or that scum is going to nightkill an inactive player is different.