Re: M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:21 pm
Still not particularly scumreading anyone. I maintain Chaqa is a good info flip.
https://www.webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/
https://www.webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4442
Why?
Why can't Chaqa be scum?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:05 pmyou could try to kill scum instead
he could be
I disagree - the ones protesting most of all strike me as more likely scum because it’s a consistent ~vibe~ in this community to protect PRs as if they are a godsend and not risk anything for additional information.celaph wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:54 amBona's spot on here.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:39 pmbozo givith cringe reasoning
are not the scum more likely to lie (with literally no blowback possibility) versus singling themselves out by refusing to answer
Again - who cares who we think is a PR?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:38 amcall me when we catch any scum with thisworcej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:30 amIt could be valuable and it isn't costing us anything of merit. Bona dismisses the fake pets inserted by scum to mean nothing, but they could very easily be their downfall if they fucked up their claims.
Several people are claiming it shows who we think could be a PR, but I fall in the camp of the fact scum don't give a fuck who the sheep think are a PR - they're going to go with their own information gathering attempts. Let's say we all ended up petting the same person - does that mean they will kill there for sure? Fuck no it doesn't.
fuck yeah it means that everyone thought that this guy was pr lmao
You gain nothing now - the advantage comes as the game progresses, similar to VCA.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:39 amwhat information have we gainedworcej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:37 amAnd here is why we're different - it's actually this:Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:17 am
the cost is medium
the benefits are nil
i do not understand why this is a sticking point
the cost is nil
the benefits are medium
Town should want to build upon information to develop potential connections and facts for future flips. Wanting to limit any information gathering is inherently scummy.
riddle me this
WHY IS THAT INFORMATION VALUABLE!?!Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:52 pmIT LITERALLY TELLS YOU WHO EACH PLAYER THOUGHT WAS PRbozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:50 pmStating our scan does not tell the mafia anything about who the dog is.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:46 pm
are you actually nuts? what other possibility is there for scum to use the info we have so generously proffered up?
literally no one said their scan until you asked
i swear to god this is not fucking hard to understand
Good - so what dog did you pet?
I thought this was clever as fuck from bozo lolBonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:59 pmlame ass mfer
This is a fair take/analysis of the situation. The ones being stubborn about the survey are making any value impossible to get down the road.damo666 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:20 pmApologies for lack of engagement, it's been a pretty busy time for me.
The main discussion point at the moment seems to be the survey. The main advantage I can see is that it will get progressively more uncomfortable for scum. The dog itself has to make it up (not that's a problem of itself and anybody finding the dog has to invent subsequently (again not a problem). The problem is I don't see how we gain and I am worried that there are so many antis, there may be a downside I cannot see for myself. I trust rdr and for that reason I am not going to participate.
I don't think Bozo has done this maliciously and suspect the votes on him are misplaced.
even worse in smaller games.