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BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pm

So how do day 1 go like in webdip mafia? Is it chaos or just yea know laid back?

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:09 pm

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pm

So how do day 1 go like in webdip mafia? Is it chaos or just yea know laid back?

We usually get seriousish.at the 24 hour mark.

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:50 pm

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pm

So how do day 1 go like in webdip mafia? Is it chaos or just yea know laid back?

shitposting and memes and eventually someone dies and from this our resident geniuses will have solved the games

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:51 pm

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:50 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pm

it's only 40 minutes after game start

I clearly missed three pages of comments so 40 minutes was important. I'm going to vote you off for not telling me the game started. Sus behavior imo.

3 pages is nothing

back in my day we had over 100 pages on d1

Durga wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:44 pm

No we should kill, I didn't play this game to do absolutely nothing but sit and get picked off

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:58 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:57 pm

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pm

So how do day 1 go like in webdip mafia? Is it chaos or just yea know laid back?

Lololol this one seems tame so far but expect 50 pages by end of the day.

Why didn't we start this yesterday when I needed a distraction?

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:54 pm

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:51 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:26 pm

Wouldn't the logical conclusion of this for town to never make a daykill until they have to?

By D2 the PRs have at least had a chance to get some information in case they end up having to claim.

But that leaves the oracle of the dead to do what exactly D1?

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:08 pm

@new people, you'll probably want this: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/front_page

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:06 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:48 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:46 pm

Right, so shouldn't Miller claim as early as possible so there's no chance mafia claims it later and gets away with something?

Nah, I think it's worth that risk, cause we can get a late clear or catch scum lying about it. Claim it if you're dying so we know, but that's it.

I can see an argument either way. If the miller claims early and is not CCed, the mafia using the NK on the miller is not a bad result. It also would keep the cops from wasting scans on the miller.

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:02 pm

I have updated my D1 no-kill list, btw. Bona has replaced Bozo. Durga is still there for reasons.

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:09 pm

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pm

So how do day 1 go like in webdip mafia? Is it chaos or just yea know laid back?

We usually get seriousish.at the 24 hour mark.

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:10 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:09 pm

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pm

So how do day 1 go like in webdip mafia? Is it chaos or just yea know laid back?

We usually get seriousish.at the 24 hour mark.

Yeah so why are you so serious so early?

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:55 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:54 pm

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:22 pm

Maybe a D1 no-kill is a good option for the no reveal game. One of the primary reasons argued against a D1 no-kill is the lack of information, but in this case we are not going to know the alignment of the DK. The other reason I think a D1 no-kill may be a good option is that it will make sure our PRs do not have to claim D1 to avoid the DK. However, I would like to know what others think.

That seems kind of stupid to me. We surely want a D1 kill so that the oracle is the dead can do something, right? With no reveals on death we both need to maximize the use of our oracle while also taking as many shots as possible at the mafia since the normal solve strats are going to weakened somewhat, at least initially. There is no roleblock on mafia so at first glance after five mins of thought it seems like the best course of action is to kill someone every day and have the oracle scan the killed person every day and play the odds game and hope the cop/JOAT/oracle can together give us enough information for a solve or hit on enough lucky shots that we win anyways.

Tfb this is sus that you want to kill people off instead of keeping people alive.

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:15 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:10 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:09 pm

We usually get seriousish.at the 24 hour mark.

Yeah so why are you so serious so early?

I had to read the setup pregame because it was bad and everyone wanted to convince RHK to make it not bad.

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:15 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:10 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:09 pm

We usually get seriousish.at the 24 hour mark.

Yeah so why are you so serious so early?

I had to read the setup pregame because it was bad and everyone wanted to convince RHK to make it not bad.

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:13 pm

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:06 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:48 pm

Nah, I think it's worth that risk, cause we can get a late clear or catch scum lying about it. Claim it if you're dying so we know, but that's it.

I can see an argument either way. If the miller claims early and is not CCed, the mafia using the NK on the miller is not a bad result. It also would keep the cops from wasting scans on the miller.

Agreed. If the miller dies that's functionally the equivalent of a vanilla townie dying from a power perspective with a slight downside insofar as we do lose a confirmed town to the NK if there is no CC. The benefits of having confirmed town for some period of time, saving all power roles from even the chance of being targeted for a turn early in the game (presuming mafia targets the miller), saving cop scans for useful targets, and the potential for early claims and CCs all point to it being more beneficial than not for the miller to claim early.

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:02 pm

I have updated my D1 no-kill list, btw. Bona has replaced Bozo. Durga is still there for reasons.