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Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:27 am
by brainbomb
and just to clear the air, I was never upset about being modkilled. the people who said I did it on purpose and that I should be banned however should know that I was enjoying the game. it was hard. we were losing. but I had a plan to shoot that night. it wouldve shot a town anyway unfortunately.
So, its whatever. sorry we didnt fare better.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:28 pm
by bo_sox48
Am I supposed to sign up for this
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:30 pm
by Jamiet99uk
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:28 pm
Am I supposed to sign up for this
No.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:54 pm
by bo_sox48
Ok thx
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:00 pm
by worcej
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:28 pm
Am I supposed to sign up for this
If you want? I miss your style personally.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:21 pm
by BunnyGo
brainbomb wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:22 am
in the least drama filled way possible, can someone explain why unvoting is more unethical than self voting, or deliberate invalid voting.
I think unethical is the wrong word. But against the literal reading of the rules is perhaps the reason. One is a vote for something (anything) and the other isn’t a vote.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:49 pm
by Nephthys
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:28 pm
Am I supposed to sign up for this
Do it
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:53 pm
by bo_sox48
worcej wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:00 pm
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:28 pm
Am I supposed to sign up for this
If you want? I miss your style personally.
<3
I'm in if I can lurk freely
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:43 pm
by Jamiet99uk
brainbomb wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:22 am
in the least drama filled way possible, can someone explain why unvoting is more unethical than self voting, or deliberate invalid voting.
Personally I think "unvote" is entirely pointless. Often newbies see people doing it and wrongly assume that to move from one suspect to another they are required to "unvote" in between.
I have previously argued that "unvote" should simply not be a recognised option. It should be an invalid command. It should have the same effect as typing "##Underpants" - i.e. nothing. I would much rather *require* that everyone ends the day with their vote on a suspect, with "No Lynch" a valid option if they really cannot do that. But I was shouted down by the majority, at the time.
But this isn't a question of ethics. The rules currently allow you to "unvote" during play, but you're *not* allowed to end on that option. You, Spongebomb, were modkilled in the last game, not because you did anything "unethical", but because you did something in violation of the rules. Now I don't think that rule is perfect, but it is the rule that has been in place for
several years and over 20 games, several of which you played in, as agreed by the Council and used consistently by the community over that time.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:21 am
by brainbomb
k
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:21 am
by brainbomb
works for me.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:07 pm
by Chaqa
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:43 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:22 am
in the least drama filled way possible, can someone explain why unvoting is more unethical than self voting, or deliberate invalid voting.
Personally I think "unvote" is entirely pointless. Often newbies see people doing it and wrongly assume that to move from one suspect to another they are required to "unvote" in between.
I have previously argued that "unvote" should simply not be a recognised option. It should be an invalid command. It should have the same effect as typing "##Underpants" - i.e. nothing. I would much rather *require* that everyone ends the day with their vote on a suspect, with "No Lynch" a valid option if they really cannot do that. But I was shouted down by the majority, at the time.
But this isn't a question of ethics. The rules currently allow you to "unvote" during play, but you're *not* allowed to end on that option. You, Spongebomb, were modkilled in the last game, not because you did anything "unethical", but because you did something in violation of the rules. Now I don't think that rule is perfect, but it is the rule that has been in place for
several years and over 20 games, several of which you played in, as agreed by the Council and used consistently by the community over that time.
I would agree with Jamie that there is no need for an "Unvote" option.
We had to add the rule to require a vote because way backwhen (pre M25 or so, I think) people would purposefully leave themselves on unvote and it was ridiculous for the game. We also didn't use to have posting requirements.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:30 pm
by Fluminator
Sure, I'll join. Currently my last game here was a trainwreck, so want to change that.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:56 pm
by brainbomb
Fluminator wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:30 pm
Sure, I'll join. Currently my last game here was a trainwreck, so want to change that.
k
works for me
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:07 pm
by Nephthys
1. Worcej
2. Brainbomb
3. Vecna
4. Emc
5. Jamiet99uk
6. Chaqa
7. xorxes
8. Temasek22
9. Foxcastle
10. damo666
11. Balkiface
12. rdrivera2005
13. bozo
14. BunnyGo
15. sulit
16. Bo
17. Flum
18.
19.
20.
U-Boot:
1.
2. Kitsune
3. Cacarroto
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:06 pm
by Fluminator
brainbomb wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:56 pm
Fluminator wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:30 pm
Sure, I'll join. Currently my last game here was a trainwreck, so want to change that.
k
works for me
I've been waiting 5 years to play as scum on webdip. Maybe this will be the time and I can finally nightkill you
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:14 pm
by brainbomb
Fluminator wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:06 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:56 pm
Fluminator wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:30 pm
Sure, I'll join. Currently my last game here was a trainwreck, so want to change that.
k
works for me
I've been waiting 5 years to play as scum on webdip. Maybe this will be the time and I can finally nightkill you
k
works for me
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:58 am
by brainbomb
##Underpants
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:24 pm
by BunnyGo
I’m trying to get swordsman to join. He says he’s interested, but busy.
Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:14 pm
by worcej
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:53 pm
worcej wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:00 pm
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:28 pm
Am I supposed to sign up for this
If you want? I miss your style personally.
<3
I'm in if I can lurk freely
I'll give you more of a pass than emc, does that sound fair?