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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7721 Post by xorxes » Sun May 10, 2020 7:48 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:29 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm
If we can’t all agree, maybe we should no lynch and give the investigators another night?
Chaq, can you stop setting off my "Chaq is scum" alerts with literally every post? Try making a couple that don't set it off please.

My deadline has passed. ##unend. ##vote temasek.
If they’re setting off chaqa is scum alerts then maybe you need to recalibrate what is scummy and what is not (even just for me)

I’ve always gotten scumread for having a different view of the game
Chaqa is not mafia. There's a tinfoil case to be made that he may have been converted by rivera, for example if TheMarche drove himself with Chaqa and rivera targeted Chaqa that night, but I don't think there's any way he could be mafia. The tinfoil does not make a lot of sense given his later behaviour either.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7722 Post by Vecna » Sun May 10, 2020 7:58 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm
Trying to catch up, but busy on and off with family this weekend. I'll post in probably half an hour.
I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?
Sorry for getting into it with you earlier Jamiet. Youre still a beacon of townyness in all likelyhood

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7723 Post by Vecna » Sun May 10, 2020 8:00 pm

im actually surprised noone responded to my info that converted scum wouldve stayed in their mafia QT (meaning potential collaboration - although this is most likely not relevant since the odds of there having been 2 converts seem pretty low).

Was this heavily discussed in the pages I did not read?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7724 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm
Trying to catch up, but busy on and off with family this weekend. I'll post in probably half an hour.
I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?
I enter in a target during the day (or really anytime before the lynch) and when I am lynched, my target also immediately dies with me if they voted for me.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7725 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm

Assuming there is a mafia redirector and mafia lawyer, we might not get any more useful scan, and using a scan on Squigs would be a waste anyway, so we should just lynch Squigs today, so that if he is town, he can take out Temasek, then both slots are resolved.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7726 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 10, 2020 8:03 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm
Trying to catch up, but busy on and off with family this weekend. I'll post in probably half an hour.
I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?
I enter in a target during the day (or really anytime before the lynch) and when I am lynched, my target also immediately dies with me if they voted for me.
How can that be true if you have to choose someone on your wagon? Do they have to end on your wagon?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7727 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun May 10, 2020 8:04 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm
Trying to catch up, but busy on and off with family this weekend. I'll post in probably half an hour.
I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?
I enter in a target during the day (or really anytime before the lynch) and when I am lynched, my target also immediately dies with me if they voted for me.
Can you change it or is it locked in once you've set it?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7728 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:04 pm

Also to anyone pushing the theory that I'm valuable scum and I'm being saved by Tem sacrificing himself, why in the world would I claim vengeful with an important mafia role?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7729 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:05 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:04 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm


I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?
I enter in a target during the day (or really anytime before the lynch) and when I am lynched, my target also immediately dies with me if they voted for me.
Can you change it or is it locked in once you've set it?
I can change up to the point I'm lynched

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7730 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:05 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:03 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm


I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?
I enter in a target during the day (or really anytime before the lynch) and when I am lynched, my target also immediately dies with me if they voted for me.
How can that be true if you have to choose someone on your wagon? Do they have to end on your wagon?
if they aren't on my wagon it doesn't kill anyone

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7731 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 10, 2020 8:09 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm
Trying to catch up, but busy on and off with family this weekend. I'll post in probably half an hour.
I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?
I enter in a target during the day (or really anytime before the lynch) and when I am lynched, my target also immediately dies with me if they voted for me.
And if they don't?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7732 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:12 pm

I can see both Xorxes and Vecnas points of view.

With voting Tem, you are almost guaranteeing a mafia loss without the risk of losing town. (Assuming you think Tem is mafia, which he almost certainly is).

With voting me, you are more strongly guaranteeing a mafia loss, but you also increase the chances of a town loss.

I don't know why Vecna would be saving me if he were scum, so the scumteam is almost certainly Tem, Bunny and damo. Although my townreads of Xorxes and foodcoats are fading as they are so averted to a Tem lynch.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7733 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:12 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:09 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm


I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?
I enter in a target during the day (or really anytime before the lynch) and when I am lynched, my target also immediately dies with me if they voted for me.
And if they don't?
Then I don't kill anyone

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7734 Post by Chaqa » Sun May 10, 2020 8:13 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:00 pm
im actually surprised noone responded to my info that converted scum wouldve stayed in their mafia QT (meaning potential collaboration - although this is most likely not relevant since the odds of there having been 2 converts seem pretty low).

Was this heavily discussed in the pages I did not read?
Rivera’s flip made it obvious. Didn’t seem worth worrying about

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7735 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:14 pm

Oh I forgot about Bozo too, although Bozo can probably only be scum if Xorxes is scum because of Xorxes mysterious role.

Jamie and Neph are almost certainly town at this point I think, although I need to revisit Jamie to make sure.

Chaqa is being really weird, but he still reads the most genuine to me out of everyone.

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#7736 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:16 pm

Oh, and then there is summit fever, who I am still holding out on my tinfoil that he is scum and was just bussing RHK after the brainbomb/RHK incident. This would mean damo is almost certainly mafia with summit

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7737 Post by xorxes » Sun May 10, 2020 8:18 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:14 pm
Oh I forgot about Bozo too, although Bozo can probably only be scum if Xorxes is scum because of Xorxes mysterious role.
Not exactly. I said there was a certain way he could be scum in spite of the info I had, but it seemed unlikely. The people who know my role know what that would be.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7738 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 8:19 pm

Yeah, easiest scumteam is Tem, bunny, damo, with a very outside chance of summit, foodcoats, or Xorxes.

This is assuming a 4 person scum team, which with all the powerful roles is looking increasingly unlikely though.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7739 Post by foodcoats » Sun May 10, 2020 8:19 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:00 pm
im actually surprised noone responded to my info that converted scum wouldve stayed in their mafia QT (meaning potential collaboration - although this is most likely not relevant since the odds of there having been 2 converts seem pretty low).

Was this heavily discussed in the pages I did not read?
It was obvious in rdr's role PM. I mentioned that if they were removed, it would be obvious to Mafia that something had happened and would be a silly design and gimp the 3P faction.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7740 Post by bozotheclown » Sun May 10, 2020 8:20 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:05 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:03 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 pm


I enter in a target during the day (or really anytime before the lynch) and when I am lynched, my target also immediately dies with me if they voted for me.
How can that be true if you have to choose someone on your wagon? Do they have to end on your wagon?
if they aren't on my wagon it doesn't kill anyone
So if you target someone while they are on your wagon, but they are not on your wagon at EOD, they survive?

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