M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

Voting for "No Lynch" today, or advocating that there ought to be a counter-wagon is either cowardly, or scummy, or both.

I agree. I’ll come back as soon as Tem does. Until then, I don’t like the situation.

[Jamiet99uk]

So that I would know I would be jailed, and not investigateable. If I was scum and Neph was town, LRing would call ALL active investigations onto me. On N1. Lol.

This is actually a rather decent post. If there is no mafia RB then scum!food activating the LR would be rather risky

hmm.

Unless there is scum lawyer OR food is godfather. Which, actually, is almost necessary for a scum!LR

A Godfather who is also a Lightning Rod?

The other one has bells on, I invite you to pull it.

[Vecna]

But as a question to you; did you read my earlier logic regarding the redirector and how it was used to redirect brainbomb to me?

Do you feel like my logic there is flawed, or are you worried that im fakeclaiming my role and I have some other killing ability of which I knew beforehand what the flavour would be?

I think I responded, although I was confusing Redirector with Deflector.

If you are town, brain could have been redirected to you so that scum could kill emc or flash without fear of them being saved, and with some hope that you would still have a charge and killed brain, and also to test if you still had it.

If you are scum, you could have redirected him to yourself so that you could kill emc or flash without fear of them being saved, plus you would be safe from a potential SK, and you could also make the above argument.

So I don't think this redirection really says much about your alignment.

Youre forgetting the most important part.

if I was scum the redirect couldve been used to let all those PR's target me so the redirect becomes a strongman vigshot that cannot be stopped.

Way stronger than just "roleblocking" the cop with potential wifom benefit

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM

Are you able to ping Temasek?

Thankyou.

[BunnyGo]

Voting for "No Lynch" today, or advocating that there ought to be a counter-wagon is either cowardly, or scummy, or both.

I believe no lynch is the logical thing to do.

Seems there’s a mole in the sex cult.

[BunnyGo]

Also tomorrow, we are massclaiming

I don't give a shit if your role "might" be useful later. It is unlikely to be stronger than what we already have.

People being hella shifty isn't helping us move forwards

should probably mass claim now tbh

Fine with me.

[Vecna]

I am going to repeat myself for the benefit of those with short attention spans.

The best plan today is for everyone to vote for Squigs, whether you believe his claim or not. Here's the logic:

If he is telling the truth:

1. We should lynch him, because his power is only activated upon his lynch, and:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, so that he can use his shot effectively.

If he is lying:

1. Then he is scum and should be lynched anyway, but:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, to insure against the possibility he is a Suicide Bomber.

If you are not voting for Squigs the only reasonable conclusion is that you want to ensure that if he is Vengeful, you are safe from his shot. That is scum-indicative thinking.

Im pretty sure that if he's scum he's not actually the role he is claiming. That feels like too low of a power level for this type of setup.

Its a pretty good fakeclaim though, because it cannot be verified unless you die regardless. Pretty good fakeclaim that is, until people start coming up with this plan.

Yes. My plan is sound. I know. Thank you.

Why are you voting No-Lynch then?

I was doing it to signal I was not agreeing with ending the day 24h early

Was a bit of a silly way to do it

[xorxes]

Youre forgetting the most important part.

if I was scum the redirect couldve been used to let all those PR's target me so the redirect becomes a strongman vigshot that cannot be stopped.

Way stronger than just "roleblocking" the cop with potential wifom benefit

Who says it was not used to redirect kgray?

Or redirect could be a JOAT one-shot deal. Maybe you had Redirect for ne night and Veteran for another night, and Lawyer for another night, so you could not use Redirect and Veteran together. This is all speculation, but I have no idea if you had two Veteran shots, or if you used something else N1, Veteran N2 and something else N3 and N4.

[BunnyGo]

GM Note:
This game is officially the most posts in a mafia game to date for webdiplo. Well done everyone :D

https://memegenerator.net/instance/46424211

[Vecna]

Youre forgetting the most important part.

if I was scum the redirect couldve been used to let all those PR's target me so the redirect becomes a strongman vigshot that cannot be stopped.

Way stronger than just "roleblocking" the cop with potential wifom benefit

Who says it was not used to redirect kgray?

Or redirect could be a JOAT one-shot deal. Maybe you had Redirect for ne night and Veteran for another night, and Lawyer for another night, so you could not use Redirect and Veteran together. This is all speculation, but I have no idea if you had two Veteran shots, or if you used something else N1, Veteran N2 and something else N3 and N4.

Do you think I wouldve openly planned outing after N1 that my charge wasnt refunded?

Besides that I cannot really argue with your point. You could even bring up the fact scum JOATS were on my mind when bismarck claimed. It is not the case however.

[Vecna]

Youre forgetting the most important part.

if I was scum the redirect couldve been used to let all those PR's target me so the redirect becomes a strongman vigshot that cannot be stopped.

Way stronger than just "roleblocking" the cop with potential wifom benefit

Who says it was not used to redirect kgray?

Or redirect could be a JOAT one-shot deal. Maybe you had Redirect for ne night and Veteran for another night, and Lawyer for another night, so you could not use Redirect and Veteran together. This is all speculation, but I have no idea if you had two Veteran shots, or if you used something else N1, Veteran N2 and something else N3 and N4.

besides that redirecting kgray wouldve been a pretty big shot in the dark when emc was already known as town tracker to scum, but that one was probably a hot potato.

[foodcoats]

Alright Jamie is right we can sort Tem later.

##VOTE Squigs

[Vecna]

##vote squigs

The biggest upside to me in lynching this is that Chaqa is once again trying to change our mind

[Jamiet99uk]

Im pretty sure that if he's scum he's not actually the role he is claiming. That feels like too low of a power level for this type of setup.

Its a pretty good fakeclaim though, because it cannot be verified unless you die regardless. Pretty good fakeclaim that is, until people start coming up with this plan.

Yes. My plan is sound. I know. Thank you.

Why are you voting No-Lynch then?

I was doing it to signal I was not agreeing with ending the day 24h early

Was a bit of a silly way to do it

In that case, stop being silly and vote for Squigs?

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote squigs

The biggest upside to me in lynching this is that Chaqa is once again trying to change our mind

Okay, thank you.

[Vecna]

I dont want to end the day yet anyway jamiet, I sort of have more important shit on my mind than making sure my vote is already where you want it to be in 22:15 hours

[xorxes]

Youre forgetting the most important part.

if I was scum the redirect couldve been used to let all those PR's target me so the redirect becomes a strongman vigshot that cannot be stopped.

Way stronger than just "roleblocking" the cop with potential wifom benefit

Who says it was not used to redirect kgray?

Or redirect could be a JOAT one-shot deal. Maybe you had Redirect for ne night and Veteran for another night, and Lawyer for another night, so you could not use Redirect and Veteran together. This is all speculation, but I have no idea if you had two Veteran shots, or if you used something else N1, Veteran N2 and something else N3 and N4.

besides that redirecting kgray wouldve been a pretty big shot in the dark when emc was already known as town tracker to scum, but that one was probably a hot potato.

I'm still not sure why they killed emc when it sorted Donny out. Maybe rivera killed emc and Mafia killed flash then. Or maybe tracker was too scary for them.

[BunnyGo]

This is actually a rather decent post. If there is no mafia RB then scum!food activating the LR would be rather risky

hmm.

Unless there is scum lawyer OR food is godfather. Which, actually, is almost necessary for a scum!LR

A Godfather who is also a Lightning Rod?

The other one has bells on, I invite you to pull it.

Not saying I believe. Just that it’s the only reasonable way a scum can be LR. That or a lawyer.

[BunnyGo]

And pulling them is why you’re in the sex cult, have xorxes do it.

[BunnyGo]

##vote squigs

The biggest upside to me in lynching this is that Chaqa is once again trying to change our mind

That is a good point.