M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[summit_fever]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ide_Bomber

He's going to wait until just befoe EoD and blow up on someone else, causing us to lynch a town on accident.

Just so I'm clear a suicide bomber doesn't need to be lynched first. Just decide to end their game and take a town out with them in addition to the lynch?

Right. The thought I had is that he would blow himself up right like 1 minute to EoD, taing out himself and a town member, leaving either a no-lynch or a town member dying because only 1-2 votes were left valid at EoD.

Hmm. Thanks

[xorxes]

Actually Chaqa, if think your QT is all town, can you add me? I'd like to talk to Jamie

Let me think about it. I don't want to rush to add someone to quickly this time.

Also, remember that if you were to add someone you would not be announcing it until EON.

[BunnyGo]

##unvote

[Nephthys]

Oh, plus Neph.

Neph, who dd you jail last night?

Myself. It based on not being able to be sure who was doing the NK and not wanting to impinge on our PRs.

Was hoping theyd line me up.

... you can jail yourself?

Evidently

I normally hate targetting myself with these things but I really didn't see an option with a better chance of success

[xorxes]

Oh, plus Neph.

Neph, who dd you jail last night?

Myself. It based on not being able to be sure who was doing the NK and not wanting to impinge on our PRs.

Was hoping theyd line me up.

Is there no paradox on you jailing yourself so you can’t jail yourself?

It does sound very strange.

[xorxes]

Just so I'm clear a suicide bomber doesn't need to be lynched first. Just decide to end their game and take a town out with them in addition to the lynch?

Right. The thought I had is that he would blow himself up right like 1 minute to EoD, taing out himself and a town member, leaving either a no-lynch or a town member dying because only 1-2 votes were left valid at EoD.

Hmm. Thanks

We just need to have a secondary wagon in place.

[Nephthys]

Right. The thought I had is that he would blow himself up right like 1 minute to EoD, taing out himself and a town member, leaving either a no-lynch or a town member dying because only 1-2 votes were left valid at EoD.

Hmm. Thanks

We just need to have a secondary wagon in place.

Surely Vecna

[Nephthys]

The man has literally only been in two tunnels this entire game.

Donny and brain

Both were town

[Jamiet99uk]

Right. The thought I had is that he would blow himself up right like 1 minute to EoD, taing out himself and a town member, leaving either a no-lynch or a town member dying because only 1-2 votes were left valid at EoD.

Hmm. Thanks

We just need to have a secondary wagon in place.

No, we need the opposite of that, one moment and I'll explain.

[Chaqa]

Right. The thought I had is that he would blow himself up right like 1 minute to EoD, taing out himself and a town member, leaving either a no-lynch or a town member dying because only 1-2 votes were left valid at EoD.

Hmm. Thanks

We just need to have a secondary wagon in place.

What if he shoots the secondary wagon?

[Chaqa]

I don't see any downside to voting no-lynch.

##Vote no lynch

[Jamiet99uk]

So, Squigs claims that he is Vengeful Townie with an unusual limitation, that he can only use his vengeful shot to kill someone, if they were on his wagon.

Chaqa proposes a theory that Squigs could be a Suicide Bomber, who plans to suicide moments before EoD, causing us to (mis?)lynch whoever the second-placed wagon is.

I suggest there is one strategy which mitigates against both of these potential problems.

Everyone, with no exceptions at all, should vote for Squigs.

[xorxes]

I don't see any downside to voting no-lynch.

##Vote no lynch

Why would we give up an opportunity to lynch? That's just giving a free NK to Mafia.

[Jamiet99uk]

So, Squigs claims that he is Vengeful Townie with an unusual limitation, that he can only use his vengeful shot to kill someone, if they were on his wagon.

Chaqa proposes a theory that Squigs could be a Suicide Bomber, who plans to suicide moments before EoD, causing us to (mis?)lynch whoever the second-placed wagon is.

I suggest there is one strategy which mitigates against both of these potential problems.

Everyone, with no exceptions at all, should vote for Squigs.

In addition, if we can make it so that the only votes are Squigs votes, even if that's before everyone has voted, then we should start voting end, to make it harder for Suicide Bomber Squigs to trigger at the last moment.

[xorxes]

So, Squigs claims that he is Vengeful Townie with an unusual limitation, that he can only use his vengeful shot to kill someone, if they were on his wagon.

Chaqa proposes a theory that Squigs could be a Suicide Bomber, who plans to suicide moments before EoD, causing us to (mis?)lynch whoever the second-placed wagon is.

I suggest there is one strategy which mitigates against both of these potential problems.

Everyone, with no exceptions at all, should vote for Squigs.

I think you're correct. ##VOTE Squigs

Squigs can shoot Tem unless Tem has claimed his role and based on that it seems worth killing someone else instead.

[summit_fever]

##vote squigs

[xorxes]

So, Squigs claims that he is Vengeful Townie with an unusual limitation, that he can only use his vengeful shot to kill someone, if they were on his wagon.

Chaqa proposes a theory that Squigs could be a Suicide Bomber, who plans to suicide moments before EoD, causing us to (mis?)lynch whoever the second-placed wagon is.

I suggest there is one strategy which mitigates against both of these potential problems.

Everyone, with no exceptions at all, should vote for Squigs.

In addition, if we can make it so that the only votes are Squigs votes, even if that's before everyone has voted, then we should start voting end, to make it harder for Suicide Bomber Squigs to trigger at the last moment.

If he is suicide bomber there is no need to rush with the end votes, is there? As long as it's before EOD it can be done at any time.

[xorxes]

In any case we definitely need to hear from Tem and everyone else before making a decision.

[Jamiet99uk]

If he is suicide bomber there is no need to rush with the end votes, is there? As long as it's before EOD it can be done at any time.

Sure, my point is that the end votes take that decision out of the bomber's hands.

[Jamiet99uk]

So, thank you Xorxes for having some faith in my judgement.

Just for everyone else's benefit, the best plan here is to vote for Squigs, whether you believe his claim or not. Here's the logic:

If he is telling the truth:

1. We should lynch him, because his power is only activated upon his lynch, and:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, so that he can use his shot effectively.

If he is lying:

1. Then he is scum and should be lynched anyway, but:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, to insure against the possibility he is a Suicide Bomber.

Everyone vote for Squigs, please?