M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

Why the vote, then?

Standard answer #2

Whats standard answer number 2

Some people subscribe to the +EV model of scum hunting
Pay no attention to it

[foodcoats]

Are we going to hammer today?

##VOTE BesharamSabi

Sabi are you scum?

[BesharamSabi]

Is it normal for Sabi to make 50+ posts without me being able to remember anything worthwhile that they said? Is Sabi just a brainbomb multi?

I laid out questions for people to answer. No one will answer me.

Sad.

Most of your questions were "Are you scum?" or "Are you excited about your role?" (in a pure vanilla game). They were not meaningful or useful questions.

Are you scum?

Once again that was the beginning but then I started asking the following questions:

if people were scum, who would they nk on the first night?

This question I wanted to figure out who they thought was a strong town player that could be an enemy of them. That was my roundabout way of asking that question.

if you were doctor in this game who would you save n1 from being killed

Another roundabout way of saying who do you think so far is the town most valuable player.

who would be your ideal and not ideal scum teammates?

Also a roundabout way of asking their analysis on players and how they feel about them.

So there.

And no I'm not scum. : )

[snowy801]

Do you think we should hammer today?

[damo666]

Why the vote, then?

Standard answer #2

Whats standard answer number 2

The one after standard answer #1

[BesharamSabi]

First vote, page 14. I appreciate the fact you're one of the few people that actually included an analysis with your vote. This vote matches your previous post with your suspicion on Bona.

Actually I didn't provide reasoning for that vote until several pages later. This vote was my first post of the game. That was kinda the point of DLs question to me and part of the contention between Bona and myself.

I probably mixed up how I read the order of your post on the Peterbot but my point still stands that your provided an explanation.

[celaph]

Tbh on reread of worcej I'm not sure what to make of snowys answer because 90% of worcejs posts is fluff/joke/off topic and the other couple of posts are one sentence comments on isolated posts here or there.

I want to know what specifically you disagree with

Also like this.

What do you mean by this

I mean that I like the post from Squigs. He noticed that snowy made a comment without examples, looked for them, and, having found no good examples, challenged snowy on his take. That's good towny behavior in my book and worth calling out.

[BesharamSabi]

Are we going to hammer today?

##VOTE BesharamSabi

Sabi are you scum?

Any reason why you're voting for me?

Anyway I'm not scum. I am trying too hard to be productive in this game to waste it for a scum. I'm trying to prove people who hated how I played in the first two games that I finally get how to play this game and that I do in fact care about the game.

[Jamiet99uk]

Do you think we should hammer today?

No.

[DeathLlama8]

hi foodcoats, why did you vote squigs/jamiet/why are you voting sabi?

[llama's longer catch-up style post]

Kinda liking this from llama. Seems to have a decent sense of things worth commenting on, though I don't agree with his take on Bo's post.

Would like to hear what specifically you thought of the foodcoats post/bo reaction? It seemed pretty obvious why foodcoats posted that despite it not really leading to anything, so "why are you doing this" seemed like shutting down a pro-town mindset.

How is this 28 pages long already?

much better than having 4 pages like last game

The following are not worth voting day 1 because if they are scum they will give it away soon enough:
...
I am reluctant to vote snowy as too valuable if town. So, I am left with

Bo
Celaph
Food
Worcej

vote Bo [alphabetically]

This feels really forced to me.
- Deciding votes based on what you think a plausible wagon would be ~10 hours into the game is weird
- I don't really see why those players are more likely to obvscum than everyone else
- The general "start with a list of everyone, filter it down, then randvote" doesn't feel like a genuine attempt to find scum.
##vote damo

Ha! I like it.

VOTE Jamie

why tho

wait ##callgm how many mafia are there? setup just says 3 or 4

3-4

That's minus one. Hooray, we've already won. GG.

if you read this you presumably also read the 3-4 other jokes made about it

This is your second vote on page 25. You gave us analysis on why you are voting for bo which is greatly appreciated. You posts before this doesn't really discuss or sus out bo. Is there any reason for this DL because it seems like this vote and analysis came out of nowhere.

It did kinda just come out of nowhere, I was rereading the thread/bot again and noticed

[celaph]

^. There are 4 seconds between their posts. Very likely crosspost.

sad! sqoogs isn't obvscum anymore

As squiggs is the main oppo to Bona rigt now I'm giving Bona townpoints for this.

Does your opinion take into account the fact that there are still well over 24 left in D1? Seems rather early for one to be worried about being a serious wagon.

[BesharamSabi]

OK I posted and analyzed and answered a good amount of questions. Going to take a couple of hours break. Leave me more stuff to do/post about while I'm gone. Xoxo

[DeathLlama8]

I am trying too hard to be productive in this game to waste it for a scum.

This is an interesting worldview - do you expect scum to not try as hard in the game? What are the implications?

[celaph]

The following are not worth voting day 1 because if they are scum they will give it away soon enough:

Bozo
ghug
Jamie
Squiggs

I have given Bona townpoints so he is off the list.

I don't think Llama asks the gm for a mafcount if he were maf so I'll give him a pass for now.

This leaves:

Sabi
Bo
Celaph
Food
Snowy
Worcej

Of these I am currently voting Sabi because I'm not convinced the activity is genuine but I guess not enough people will agree with that to make a viable wagon so ##unvote.

I am reluctant to vote snowy as too valuable if town. So, I am left with

Bo
Celaph
Food
Worcej

##vote Bo [alphabetically]

You clearly rate my scum game way too highly. Both times I've been scum I was very scummy by mid-D2.

[damo666]

sad! sqoogs isn't obvscum anymore

As squiggs is the main oppo to Bona rigt now I'm giving Bona townpoints for this.

Does your opinion take into account the fact that there are still well over 24 left in D1? Seems rather early for one to be worried about being a serious wagon.

I don't think scumBona would post that regardless of timing.

[DeathLlama8]

what if scum if just all-Euro again and it turns out PE is xenophobic

[celaph]

Looked like a crosspost between them to me

^. There are 4 seconds between their posts. Very likely crosspost.

How do you tell post seconds?

Whenever you click the quote button on a post the text will include some info like "quote=snowy801 post_id=273452 time=1637162866 user_id=88". The time value here is the useful one as it includes seconds information though you might want to convert out of unix time if you want to read it.

Side note: I wonder if you could do anything screwy if you changed any of those values.

[damo666]

The following are not worth voting day 1 because if they are scum they will give it away soon enough:

Bozo
ghug
Jamie
Squiggs

I have given Bona townpoints so he is off the list.

I don't think Llama asks the gm for a mafcount if he were maf so I'll give him a pass for now.

This leaves:

Sabi
Bo
Celaph
Food
Snowy
Worcej

Of these I am currently voting Sabi because I'm not convinced the activity is genuine but I guess not enough people will agree with that to make a viable wagon so ##unvote.

I am reluctant to vote snowy as too valuable if town. So, I am left with

Bo
Celaph
Food
Worcej

##vote Bo [alphabetically]

You clearly rate my scum game way too highly. Both times I've been scum I was very scummy by mid-D2.

No. I merely list the players I have sussed as scum in the past. I don't remember you as scum tbh. [@DL that is why these in particular]

[damo666]

what if scum if just all-Euro again and it turns out PE is xenophobic

Who is Euro other than me and Jamie?

[ghug]

^. There are 4 seconds between their posts. Very likely crosspost.

How do you tell post seconds?

Whenever you click the quote button on a post the text will include some info like "quote=snowy801 post_id=273452 time=6 user_id=88". The time value here is the useful one as it includes seconds information though you might want to convert out of unix time if you want to read it.

Side note: I wonder if you could do anything screwy if you changed any of those values.

post_id or user_id would change the link. Jamie changes names all the time.