MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#641 Post by ghug » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:37 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 pm
I still contend that if we hammer someone, it's got to be a volunteer.

We don't want to make a PR out themselves.
What's changed since you concluded that the downsides of this outweigh the upsides?

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Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#642 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:38 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:34 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:31 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 pm
I still contend that if we hammer someone, it's got to be a volunteer.

We don't want to make a PR out themselves.
How is it any different than any other daychop?

We daychop without volunteers. We are going to daychop tomorrow. We're just voting now when we have one more town player and the potential to get a free useful item.
How is it different? During ordinary daykilling we're prone to mistakes, killing town when we're hoping for mafia, and sometimes taking a PR down in the process. There's no chance of that happening with what I am proposing.

Unless I am missing something.
Using a volunteer guarantees we mis-kill a town, if we try to give a potential gambler a target, we should at least try to DK a scum.

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#643 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:39 pm

I think worcej is more likely to be town, but I would hammer him for sure if he is the leading vote getter. He is firmly in the POE and so reducing the POE, potentially getting an item for the gambler, and getting real info from this vote seem like a generally good proposition.

I'd like people to vote BunnyGo, who has shown TMI on my alignment and does not seem to be solving a puzzle.

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Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#644 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:39 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:35 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:31 pm
I'll also contend that the volunteer needs to do so right at, or immediately after the EON.
Nobody do this.
Why not? You get people volunteering now it changes the pool for mafia and the nightkill tonight, right?

If you tell me why it doesn't make sense, Ill drop it.

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#645 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:40 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:37 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 pm
I still contend that if we hammer someone, it's got to be a volunteer.

We don't want to make a PR out themselves.
What's changed since you concluded that the downsides of this outweigh the upsides?
Nothing's changed, but if the consensus is to do it, then do it. I know I'm not making myself clearly understood but it's where I'm at right now.

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#646 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:41 pm

A volunteer is a VT, right? We have PRs we want to keep hidden. Claiming VT right now, when not about to get daychopped, helps scum.

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#647 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:42 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:38 pm


Using a volunteer guarantees we mis-kill a town, if we try to give a potential gambler a target, we should at least try to DK a scum.
Ah...ok.


Nevermind responding Balki, bozo spelled it out for me.

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#648 Post by ghug » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:44 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:31 pm
I'll also contend that the volunteer needs to do so right at, or immediately after the EON.
This is weirdly nervous energy from Brian.

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#649 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:46 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:44 pm
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I'll also contend that the volunteer needs to do so right at, or immediately after the EON.
This is weirdly nervous energy from Brian.
What? I mean my heart rate's a little high because I just walked back from the store, but that ain't nerves.

I'm going to drop a vote on Worcej. I think there was enough in the vote yesterday to test it out.

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#650 Post by ghug » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:46 pm

##VOTE Brian

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#651 Post by ghug » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:46 pm

Flashwagon choo choo

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#652 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:49 pm

Does someone have the current vote count?

Will anyone join me on BunnyGo?

I thought worcej's push on me earlier in the night seemed pretty Town. He was just sticking his neck out in a way that seemed unusual coming from scum.

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#653 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:50 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:46 pm
Flashwagon choo choo
You have 12 minutes to get it done.

##Vote Worcej

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#654 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:50 pm

How about a wagon on Damo?

##vote Damo

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#655 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:50 pm

Voting ends in 5 minutes so that gambler has time to get the wager in.

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#656 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:53 pm

Unofficial night vote count:
lfischl (2): worcej, bo
worcej (4): Koala, lfischl, Chaqa; Brian
damo (2): rd; Balki
Brian (1): ghug

3 minutes left.

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#657 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:53 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:50 pm
How about a wagon on Damo?

##vote Damo
I think this is the latest:

Unofficial night vote count:
lfischl (2): worcej, bo
worcej (4): Koala, lfischl, Chaqa, Hamilton Brian
damo (2): rd, Balki
Hamilton Brian (1): ghug

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#658 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:54 pm

Vote Damo.


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Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#660 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:56 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:55 pm
##VOTE No‑Kill
Political statement or you have an idea?

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