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Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:58 pm

celaph wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:03 am

On the topic of heart, he answered Bozo's petting question with inherent trust that Bozo had a decent reason for asking and that he could safely answer and figure out the reason later. That feels way more newb town than newb scum to me.

Secondly,

heartthrob24909 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:10 am

1. if hes active maybe thats why? and he got some votes D1 so scum could be trying to stir confusion by eliminating him... still figuring out the ins and outs of

It's certainly possible that Heart's a great actor and playing up how little he knows. But if he's mafia, then presumably he just spent 24 hours in a discord with two other players explaining their reasoning on who to kill. I do not believe that anyone spends time seriously contemplating their best kill and decides its ghug because he got votes.

Heart is town.

agree with this reasoning

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 am

fwiw i nailed celaph as scum a while back for not having reads and he said in a god thread pm that would be relatively easy to improve on so

celaph having reads === scummy????

worcej wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:55 pm

Kakarroto wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:28 am

Alright sheeple, I want to hear some thoughts from you:

-) why do you think ghug was targeted? Did you notice anything in particular?

-) who do you think would target ghug N1? There should be better targets around, right?

-) why didn't we have a survey yet? Would there be even a survey that's useful for town?

I'm sure there are more questions that would be great to be answered but right now I can't think of good ones to ask. Everyone feel free to answer them, but I definitely want and need them answered by bo and chaqa and I firmly suggest that worcej and bozo also answer them.

Since you asked:
1. probably because scum thought he was a PR for some reason? Truthfully this is probably a rare occurrence for ghug as he normally dies much later in games. However, I did not see anything that would lead me to think he suggested or hinted anything that would make him a PR.

2. Quick list: Bona/Damo/Kak are the three players I could see being willing to kill ghug ASAP if any of you got some sort of PR Vibe from him.

3. Because bozo hasn’t made one? Kind of a small game to force the issue for one, but that’s my thought at least.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:00 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:05 am

I think we should put some pressure on the mafia and have everyone state who they dog-checked N1, obviously without giving the result.

I checked ghug N1.

lmao there it is. Town Bozo would have done it preemptively.

FWIW I checked bozo and I do not feel concerned voting for him.

bo_sox48 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:44 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:55 pm

Kakarroto wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:28 am

Alright sheeple, I want to hear some thoughts from you:

-) why do you think ghug was targeted? Did you notice anything in particular?

-) who do you think would target ghug N1? There should be better targets around, right?

-) why didn't we have a survey yet? Would there be even a survey that's useful for town?

I'm sure there are more questions that would be great to be answered but right now I can't think of good ones to ask. Everyone feel free to answer them, but I definitely want and need them answered by bo and chaqa and I firmly suggest that worcej and bozo also answer them.

Since you asked:
1. probably because scum thought he was a PR for some reason? Truthfully this is probably a rare occurrence for ghug as he normally dies much later in games. However, I did not see anything that would lead me to think he suggested or hinted anything that would make him a PR.

2. Quick list: Bona/Damo/Kak are the three players I could see being willing to kill ghug ASAP if any of you got some sort of PR Vibe from him.

3. Because bozo hasn’t made one? Kind of a small game to force the issue for one, but that’s my thought at least.

This just feels contrived to me

worcej wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:46 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:00 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:05 am

I think we should put some pressure on the mafia and have everyone state who they dog-checked N1, obviously without giving the result.

I checked ghug N1.

lmao there it is. Town Bozo would have done it preemptively.

FWIW I checked bozo and I do not feel concerned voting for him.

TBF, I think you’re right on the poll/question being a factor of town!bozo, but where I am unsure is why you would think he would do it before the phase…

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:37 am

N1 dog checks:

bozo: ghug
Chaqa: bozo
Bonatogether: no check
heartthrob: damo
lfischl: Kakarroto

bo_sox48 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:49 pm

It’s just the vibes man

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:51 am

I ran some mafia AI I found online and it said the scum team is Bonatogether, celaph, and Kakarroto.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:38 am

I should be town clear because I would never give ghug the satisfaction of N1ing him

worcej wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:32 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:07 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:07 am

Why not?

i decided i didn't need to know who the pr is or isn't

Chad move.

worcej wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:44 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 am

fwiw i nailed celaph as scum a while back for not having reads and he said in a god thread pm that would be relatively easy to improve on so

celaph having reads === scummy????

For someone who usually doesn’t WIFOM, this reads weird to me.

bo_sox48 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:10 am

Breaking ties as scum and hoping someone is as dumb as Chaqa and says “hurr durr you broke a tie you’re obvtown” is a true pro strat, an old favorite of mine. Sometimes I even do it as town just to have that point on my side for a couple days before everyone forgets

bo_sox48 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:24 am

lfischl wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:52 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:20 pm

This is the sort of game where I'm going to strongly oppose killing anyone who's actually talking for the first couple days. Liking not hearing from bo, though.

Why do you not like hearing from bo?

I was in an earthquake once while I was working in Alaska. Ghug had never experienced an earthquake, and he was asking me about it. He told me he really wanted to be in one - not a humongous one, but one that knocked some shit off the walls and made a little bit of commotion, and ultimately left no one hurt. When I told him that the earthquake I had recently been through was a low end 7 on the Richter scale and described the rocking motion from it and the aftershocks he said to me, and I quote, “dang, that sounds like a cool experience. I really would love to be in one like that sometime.” So I told him he should just ask his mom to do a couple jumping jacks and he’ll get the idea.

He hasn’t gotten along well with me since. Not really sure why.

celaph wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:07 am

lfischl wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:21 pm

celaph wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:20 pm

For the people voting Bo, why not Chaqa? Chaqa has sent more messages and his only pro-town action is restarting the bot.

Also, what are people's thoughts on Bunny?

I would support a chaqa wagon, I just want to see bo actually send some messages first

Why would you support a Chaqa wagon?

Also, is this message abobe the message that you were referring to here:

lfischl wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:53 pm

I forget where the post is but Chaqa is probably the person I have the worst feeling about, Bona is probably town but my gut wants me to say he's scum

lfischl wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:20 pm

celaph wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:07 am

lfischl wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:21 pm

I would support a chaqa wagon, I just want to see bo actually send some messages first

Why would you support a Chaqa wagon?

Also, is this message abobe the message that you were referring to here:

lfischl wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:53 pm

I forget where the post is but Chaqa is probably the person I have the worst feeling about, Bona is probably town but my gut wants me to say he's scum

Does chaqa have a history of just buddying people?