Pairs Diplomacy Game Thread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

My condolences, im very sorry for your loss. Take as much time as you need

[dargorygel]

Unpaused. I will pay some attention to see if more time is needed.

[DarthPorg36]

I'm all set now, thanks

To the Sultan - I agree that we should quickly evacuate the Black Sea area as soon as we can secure our desired territories. Should my general and your general agree to this, I would be happy to move the fleet to Rumania. I agree with your statement that a strong France is likely, and with a strong central triple, we must stick together. As such, your movement out of the Black Sea and my fleet residing peacefully in Rumania is ideal.

Czar

[DreamTrawler]

To the Czar - hope you are doing alright. It seems you also have been shaken by my pact with Italy and Austria. As mentioned before, it was never meant to be an offensive alliance. However, if everyone is worrying about it, I might as well use it to gain some leverage. I will let you into Sweden as long as your main target for expansion is neither me nor Austria. Whether you focus north or south is up to you. I am sure Austria would be willing to support you in a Turkish campaign.

- Kaiser

[DarthPorg36]

To the Czar - hope you are doing alright. It seems you also have been shaken by my pact with Italy and Austria. As mentioned before, it was never meant to be an offensive alliance. However, if everyone is worrying about it, I might as well use it to gain some leverage. I will let you into Sweden as long as your main target for expansion is neither me nor Austria. Whether you focus north or south is up to you. I am sure Austria would be willing to support you in a Turkish campaign.

- Kaiser

To the Kaiser -

I haven't interpreted the three-way pact as offensive, to be fair. It's actually less about the threat you pose in the alliance and more about the Austria-Italian alliance and how that may influence action in the east. Regardless, I would love access to Sweden. I will agree to the deal. However, should any moves be made that are deemed threats to the Russian state, we reserve the right to defend ourselves however we see fit. Russia has no plans to make an offensive move as of yet, provided we are let to Rumania, and that your nation follows through with letting us to Sweden.

Hoping for continued peace and prosperity,
Czar

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

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To my lovely general:

I would like to take Norway (obviously), although I dowant to discuss more about Belgium with France and Germany

Take Norway however you see fit!
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-England

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@France
@Germany

I think me taking Belgium would be a good way to even out the power balance, i am willing to work together on this. Should we discuss it?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@France
@Germany

I think me taking Belgium would be a good way to even out the power balance, i am willing to work together on this. Should we discuss it?

I can take with a fleet if necessary to dissuade any notions I would attack afterwards

[DreamTrawler]

@France
@Germany

I think me taking Belgium would be a good way to even out the power balance, i am willing to work together on this. Should we discuss it?

I can take with a fleet if necessary to dissuade any notions I would attack afterwards

The problem is if you get in one of us is immediately going to enlist you to attack the other, and I don't want to be the one drawing the short straw.

[Pengwinja]

@France
@Germany

I think me taking Belgium would be a good way to even out the power balance, i am willing to work together on this. Should we discuss it?

I can take with a fleet if necessary to dissuade any notions I would attack afterwards

The problem is if you get in one of us is immediately going to enlist you to attack the other, and I don't want to be the one drawing the short straw.

I concur.

[Theodoric]

I'm all set now, thanks

To the Sultan - I agree that we should quickly evacuate the Black Sea area as soon as we can secure our desired territories. Should my general and your general agree to this, I would be happy to move the fleet to Rumania. I agree with your statement that a strong France is likely, and with a strong central triple, we must stick together. As such, your movement out of the Black Sea and my fleet residing peacefully in Rumania is ideal.

Czar

To the Czar,

I am glad that we both see the value of moving out from the Black Sea area to focus on Western challenges. The Sultanate would prefer it if you took Rumania with your Ukrainian army, rather than the Sevastopol fleet--doing so wouldn't leave Sevastopol open for a build and would give your Rumanian unit options other than a move on Bulgaria or the Black Sea.

I appreciate your words of friendship, but I remain concerned that you have not yet made any concrete or specific promises about how you can help me expand. For you, not moving on the Black Sea this turn means securing a supply center--a move that is likely optimal regardless of our negotiations. For me, friendship with Russia means forgoing Austrian assistance into Rumania (which would at least leave it open for future expansion), and not launching an attack on Sevastopol with my remaining army and fleet. It also means accepting substantial risk--not moving into the Black Sea allows you to take the Black Sea, build an army in Sevastopol, and thus put me in a highly vulnerable defensive position. I want to work with you and am thus open to forgoing a potential attack on you, but I want to hear more specifics about what I can expect from you in return.

-Ahmed Tevfik Pasha, Great Vizier of the Ottoman Empire

[DreamTrawler]

To the German general - I recommend heading to Belgium and Holland. The Low Countries are a necessary buffer between us and our western neighbors. As for the fleet and Sweden - I say exercise restraint and let the Russians have it. The Czar has promised to avoid picking a fight if we grant this request.

To the English and French generals - Feel free to bounce in Belgium, but if anyone is feeling generous, support into Belgium would also be appreciated, and would be taken as an overture towards a strong alliance with whichever power does so.

- your German diplomat friend

[Theodoric]

To the Esteemed Victor Emanuel III of Italy,

We in the Sultanate hold you and your nation in the highest regard. Thus we look upon the insubordination of your general with the deepest sorrow. If an Italian fleet remains in the Ionian, we may feel the need to place our own naval assets on the Mediterranean. Unfortunately, this has the potential to create further conflict, even if such conflict is not desired by either of us.

I ask you to consider taking Tunis with your fleet this turn, in order to reassure the Sultanate of a peaceful Western maritime border. Please let us know if this is agreeable to you. Don't hesitate to share any concerns with this proposal--we are happy to discuss and to come to a mutually agreeable settlement.

-Ahmed Tevfik Pasha, Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@France
@Germany

I think me taking Belgium would be a good way to even out the power balance, i am willing to work together on this. Should we discuss it?

I can take with a fleet if necessary to dissuade any notions I would attack afterwards

The problem is if you get in one of us is immediately going to enlist you to attack the other, and I don't want to be the one drawing the short straw.

Seems the German is moving in without even talking to us

Im not really willing to give him 3 builds, so if we bounce him or something we could do some damage

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I can take with a fleet if necessary to dissuade any notions I would attack afterwards

The problem is if you get in one of us is immediately going to enlist you to attack the other, and I don't want to be the one drawing the short straw.

Seems the German is moving in without even talking to us

Im not really willing to give him 3 builds, so if we bounce him or something we could do some damage

Ope, you are Germany

@France

Read above

[Theodoric]

To the Honored Sir Wolkstein-Trostburg,

The Sultanate extends greetings to our dear friends in the Dual Monarchy. We wish to confirm our plans not to contest Austrian control of Greece. In return, we ask that the Serbian army support Bulgaria to Rumania. We note that, pending negotiations with Russia, we may choose not to follow through on this move. If we decide to take this move off the table, I will promptly inform our Austrian friends.

-Ahmed Tevfik Pasha, Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire.

[DreamTrawler]

Just to clarify, I am moving to Belgium expecting to get bounced. Controlling it would be nice, but I am sure that is unlikely.

-Kaiser

[DarthPorg36]

To the Honored Sir Wolkstein-Trostburg,

The Sultanate extends greetings to our dear friends in the Dual Monarchy. We wish to confirm our plans not to contest Austrian control of Greece. In return, we ask that the Serbian army support Bulgaria to Rumania. We note that, pending negotiations with Russia, we may choose not to follow through on this move. If we decide to take this move off the table, I will promptly inform our Austrian friends.

-Ahmed Tevfik Pasha, Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire.

To the Sultan

This has been... concerning to hear that you would openly negotiate against me. But I shall nonetheless try to dissuade you from assaulting the me. Your benefit of working with the Russians is that you get complete control over the Mediterranean, the Balkans, Italy, and Western Europe. The specific center count would be up to you, but we'd essentially roll West, classic juggernaut. It's tried and true, works almost every time. However, we are playing with cunning players, so I expect that it will be more difficult than a simple swarm to the west. Also, by working with us, you no longer have to fight a northern front, you can stay safely on one side of the stalemate line, and should this go long term, your position will be better for stabbing me than my position will be for stabbing you. You'll have the upper hand in this alliance, with moves being relatively simple, whereas I'll have to fight the north too. Alliance with the Austrians will instead give you gains around the Black Sea, but you will soon be cut off by your own ally, and forced to fight there too. Austria can quickly get the jump on you in Rumania and Bulgaria, Sevastopol will be isolated and fall, and you're forced to turtle for all eternity. By working with the Czar, you will always have room to expand. I'll move the army to Rumania should you agree to the deal.

I hope you consider the offer.
Czar.

[Pengwinja]

The problem is if you get in one of us is immediately going to enlist you to attack the other, and I don't want to be the one drawing the short straw.

Seems the German is moving in without even talking to us

Im not really willing to give him 3 builds, so if we bounce him or something we could do some damage

Ope, you are Germany

@France

Read above

My French generals have been granted control over the situation. i think that bouncing would be good idea, but i have total faith in their handling of the situion

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Just to clarify, I am moving to Belgium expecting to get bounced. Controlling it would be nice, but I am sure that is unlikely.

-Kaiser

Ah, my mistake

-England